What Is the X in Xmas?


Here’s a holiday surprise that only the dictionary can provide. Do you find the word “Xmas,” as an abbreviation for Christmas, offensive? Many people do.

You won’t find Xmas in church songbooks or even on many greeting cards. Xmas is popularly associated with a trend towards materialism, and sometimes the target of people who decry the emergence of general “holiday” observance instead of particular cultural and religious ritual.

But the history of the word “Xmas” is actually more respectable — and fascinating — than you might suspect. First of all, the abbreviation predates by centuries its use in gaudy advertisements. It was first used in the mid 1500s. X is the Greek letter “chi,” the initial letter in the word Χριστός. And here’s the kicker: Χριστός means “Christ.” X has been an acceptable representation of the word “Christ” for hundreds of years. This device is known as a Christogram. The mas in Xmas is the Old English word for “mass.”  (The thought-provoking etymology of “mass” can be found here.) In the same vein, the dignified terms Xpian and Xtian have been used in place of the word “Christian.”

As lovers of the alphabet, we are transfixed by the flexibility of “X.” The same letter can represent the sacred, the profane (“rated X”), and the unknown (“X-ray“). What does the “X” in Xbox stand for? Find out more about the 24th letter of the alphabet, here.

What other holiday-related words would you like to know more about? Let us know, below.

FSU gives students a peek at the past.(Knight Ridder Newspapers)

Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service November 9, 2001 | Mitchell, Tia The Florida State University Union Gallery has been converted into a time machine. Current students who visited the gallery this week have been able to see how students lived and what they lived through in the university’s 150-year history. floridastatecollegenow.com florida state college

The weeklong exhibit _ titled “Alumni: Celebrating 150 Years of Student Life” _ includes replicas of four dorm rooms, pictures and other memorabilia. It was unveiled earlier this week as part of the homecoming celebration at the university.

Diane Greer, who oversees the exhibit, said it allows current students to get a “peek at the past.” “We just wanted them to see the kinds of things students might have had in their rooms at the time,” said Greer, who is also director of cultural resources. “I think dorm life is part of the history of the university that tends to be ignored.” The four dorm rooms are decorated to reflect the eras they represent _ the 1880s, 1901, the 1940s and the 1960s. In 1851, the Florida General Assembly established the Seminary West of the Suwannee River. The institution became known as the Florida State College in 1901, and in 1905 the Legislature turned it into a females-only institution. In 1947, the Florida State College for Women became coeducational and was renamed Florida State University.

Sherill Ragans, associate vice president of student affairs, suggested replicating dorm rooms after seeing a similar display at Georgia Tech in Atlanta. The exhibit not only shows how student life has evolved but also points out campus traditions and newsworthy events.

Copies of front pages of several issues of The New York Times are hung on the walls. The one closest to the door is a copy of the Sept. 12 issue, which has a picture of two smoking World Trade Center towers. Other copies displayed include coverage of the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and President John Kennedy, as well as Gen. Robert E. Lee’s Civil War-ending surrender.

“It’s designed to show how historical events _ both national and world events _ have shaped and influenced the lives of students at FSU and its predecessor institutions through the years,” said junior public relations student Emily Hawker, who is a member of the committee that produced the exhibit.

FSU alumna Kitty Hoffman, who will serve as one of the homecoming parade marshals, attended the opening reception Monday afternoon. Her story, told in the exhibit by a bucket of oranges, helps bring to life the university’s reputation for compassion for its students.

During the 1933-1934 school year, Hoffman was a sophomore at the Florida State College for Women. The nation was in the middle of the Great Depression, and Hoffman’s family didn’t have enough money for her to return that spring. here florida state college

“But I didn’t want to go home, so the college bought enough oranges from my father to pay my expenses for the rest of the school year,” she said.

Hoffman said she is not the only student who benefited from this compassion.

“We thought maybe somebody got through on sweet potatoes,” she said. “And it was suspected somebody got through on collard greens.” After FSU’s homecoming this weekend, the display will be on exhibit in the Student Life Building for six months.

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  1. Realistiq -  December 5, 2016 - 3:02 am

    Hi everyone!

    I have a question on the same topic of Xmas.

    How is Santa Claus (Old Nick), of any significance to the birth of Jesus Christ, and what role do the Reindeers play in the same event. Furthermore, the gold and silver decked green tree-its importance?

    I’d like to celebrate Xmas, if at all its biblical with reason and conviction.

    • Will Hunter -  December 9, 2016 - 12:32 pm

      Honestly, I think you are overthinking this a bit. If you wanted to be true to the religious meaning, well then you’d have to first decide whose definition of the season to follow.

      Personally, the stress is not worth it. Regardless of what spiritual meaning you want to place on Dec 25th, the real reason and purpose for the holiday is to be with family and friends. Just enjoy the day with those you love, and take some time to help out someone that is less fortunate as well. You’ll be living closer to the ideal of Christ’s teachings, rather then letting them be obfuscated by doctrine.

    • Adam -  December 11, 2016 - 4:24 am

      Generally, I don’t think that, we have or all word have a good?! Santa Claus is a magic person, which somebody spend about thinking a lot of time, and now we have. Children know that, 24th and sometimes 25th they have a present , but why??

      My childhood was totally different and it was better then today. U didn’t used to smartphone and website.. All time spend with family, not only for 3 days(24th-26th). Influence we will have fan in these year X-mas.

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    • Christian here -  December 2, 2016 - 8:38 pm

      I love god Christmas is a pagan holiday like most all holidays if not all just do your research December 25th is Nimrods birthday Jesus Christ birthday is unknown my opinion and what I tell my child that it’s not right or Godly to deceive your children in believing in Santa and that he’s watching and that he brings good things because Its not Christ centered all good things come from God almighty it’s like bribing your child to be good in order to get presents think about it spell Santa but take the letter n out and place it at the end you get Satan come on people quit falling FOR traditions and passing them on there’s also scriptures in the bible that talk about decorating a tree in your house and more is ungodly I will find the scripture I’ve read awhile ago and post it for u to see but hey dnt get me wrong there’s nothing wrong with spending joyful time playing games and giving gifts on Dec. 25Th or any other date on the calender as a matter a fact I encourage it all’s I ask is research find out for yourself and decide what to do but I’m thinking most of you will not because it’s easier just to keep continuing what you’ve always done but for those who really want to know look it up I will also post links with knowledge of this matter along with scriptures until then just Google pagan holidays and what they mean besides we should celebrate the birth his sacrifice and resurrection daily I love you all wish the best no matter what religion you have because were all children OF God and I’ve been lost before in my past but now I’m on the right path God Bless you all GLORY TO GOD

      • Tom -  December 5, 2016 - 12:31 pm

        Christians took back (redeemed) a pagan holiday, since all days belong to God. Some infrequent church goers prefer Christmas since it is the same date every year, while Easter moves around with the linear year and the Spring solstice.

      • Jesus Is LORD -  December 9, 2016 - 7:28 am

        You are so right “Christian here.” Sadly, I am just realizing it’s pagan roots. i now plan to throw away ridiculous trees and attempt to explain to my children. Common sense and logic would dictate what this celebration has turned into anyway. The Devil is so cleaver. As our children mature, they first learn Santa and Easter Bunny is a lie. Then a bit later, the world tells them Jesus is a lie. Pretty easy to believe, right? True believers must wake up and come OUT of the WORLD. Please also study and check your bibles. The NIV and others have taken out thousands of words, strategically. The KJ still seems to be the most reliable source. Blessings to you.

        • Grace -  December 11, 2016 - 5:30 pm

          I will never give in to this pagan holiday christmas nor easter. Preachers on TV persist on compromising the truth. I lose faith in TV evangelists. Only the word of God. Just because a man says it in TV doesn’t make it right. My faith in the True word of God. I will not compromise. No matter the cost. Amen

      • kevin -  December 10, 2016 - 2:21 pm

        the birtj of our Savior Jesus. who died or our sins for Eternal life

      • Joe -  December 10, 2016 - 8:01 pm

        Google “punctuation”

  3. Flip -  January 7, 2016 - 10:53 am

    I know this is way off topic, but I thought I’d get my 3 cents in! lol I’m not sure if this was mentioned, I do not have the time to wade through all these opinions and determine whether they be true or false. Over the years I have come to realize that atheism was the only truth for me. I do concede that there are other valid opinions out there whether they be based on fact or simply passed down through generations – in which case it is like playing broken telephone. Now those of you who are Christians, certainly, believe in a Christian moral code. Now what does one say to anyone – but particularly the Christians to all the atrocities committed in the name of God. The crusades, Spanish Inquisition and the witch trials to name a few. So in the past killing was Christian-like and moral! So this religion has been passed down by generations and generations and through your children and your children’s children. And don’t even get me started on the cannibalistic eating someones body and drinking their blood – even if it is symbolical. And parents are concerned that there is too much blood and violence in movies and video games but they are continuously killing Christ and drinking his blood and eating his body. What kind of example are you giving your children? Is this moral? Ask yourself? And that is why now, I am an atheist…

    • gobbledygook -  January 26, 2016 - 11:04 pm

      I am not Christian, but I am also not an atheist, and I have something to say to you about “the atrocities committed in the name of God.” The behavior of certain Christians is not the definition of Christianity. The third of the ten commandments says, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.” Many people misunderstand this as meaning you shouldn’t swear using God’s name, but it actually means that you should not do evil in the name of God, which is what the people you mentioned did, and therefore, according to Christians, the Lord will not hold them guiltless. Does the bad behavior of certain atheists make atheism wrong? Now I will tell you why atheism does not make sense. This is Newton’s first law of motion. When viewed in an inertial reference frame, an object either remains at rest or continues to move at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by an external force. Things move. Therefore, in the beginning, there must have been an unmoved mover, since still things do not ever spontaneously start to move. The only still creatures that start to move without an external force are self-aware. I believe that consciousness must then be a force on its own, and that unmoved mover must have been conscious. If you have a logical explanation for atheism, I’d like to hear it, but disagreeing with one religion is not a logical explanation for atheism. Atheism is not the only alternative to Christianity. Also, Christian parents do not pass down the idea of burning people at the stake to their children. If you do something a Christian disagrees with, the most they will do is pray for you. This isn’t the middle ages.

      • Judy Ball -  November 29, 2016 - 6:46 pm

        Couldn’t have said it better myself,anyone who does wrong in any field or organisation should not be all tarred with the same brush! AChristian tries to live as Jesus taught, such behaviour as the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity would not be sanctioned by Him!!

      • T -  November 30, 2016 - 5:29 am

        I AM a Christian…And your argument/explanation is very well said. Thank you.

      • meedle24 -  December 2, 2016 - 11:34 am

        I don’t see how self-aware is related to god. If self-aware is acted on an external force then it could be a force that is acted on it cause there’s a thing call matter and energy. What have you made is testable by science and it isn’t a phenomena for have we think were a phenomena (e.g., lightning, diseases, the origin of the universe and life”). It could be a supernatural thing but it would be difficult to explain it than to explain it in a natural way.

    • cl wilson -  February 2, 2016 - 2:49 pm

      IWhat a non-seqitur…
      In a human world of agency, opportunity, responsibility and consequence, it is illogical to put the blame for poor and wicked behavior on the God who promoted goodness and kindness at every turn. The word Christianity may be used to define a group of people whose behavior may or may not be Christian in its nature. Historical Christianity as well as facism, communism, ISIS (aberrated Mohammedism), etc. are not Christian in nature either as they deny agency and promote atrocity.
      The admonition to the house of Israel through Moses was to keep the commandments and be blessed. To violate the commandments was an invitation to misery. Still true.
      To try to commit to atheism is an awkward undertaking. Saying there is no God implies that the individual represents the greatest good, that each one is his own god to do as he or she sees fit is a rank foolishness. If it impossible to tangibly prove that there is a god, is is likewise impossible to prove that there is no god. Hence we turn to religion and its proposition of the Greater Good to give meaning to life and a set of suggested common behaviors that can help us to live in peace, one with another, And there was no better teacher of virtue and goodness than Jesus Christ.
      If we follow Christ in word and deed, the world is a gentler place. We see ourselves as noble Children of God. We find peace in our lives, We have purpose in living and hope in that which is to come.

    • Pudgethefish -  June 21, 2016 - 10:37 am

      I am also an atheist, but I have to say that what you are pointing out is quite unnecessary and irrelevant. Yes, a lot of religious concepts are rather crude when closely examined. However, what about this particular page warranted your slander. You in no way are defending your religious view, you’re defacing other’s. Respect other’s right to a religion and feel free to express yours so long as you aren’t bringing others to the dirt in the process. As I said, I share your beliefs, but I only slander others when people call me a devil worshipper

    • who cares -  July 12, 2016 - 3:50 pm

      Quick question, if you became an Atheist because the morals to you where atrocities, why didn’t you become a vegetarian as well? I mean why sell yourself short? Since they ate the meat of man, why have you not been turned off to all meat? You were turned of by all religion…. Questions that need answers..

    • Ashlee Popwell -  October 20, 2016 - 7:22 am

      Hello. Actually, it’s biblical what Christians do when they eat of the body of Christ and drink of the blood. Not literally obviously, but Jesus sat down with his disciples and gave them bread to eat, and wine(very low alcohol content), to drink. Not the low alcoholic volume of today’s stuff, much lower level. But the point is, he told them to eat the bread and drink the wine. He said the bread represents his body(the body or group of believers), and the blood represents his future crucifixion, which he did in order to save us. It was the only way to. It was shed (his blood) as a holy sacrifice to god, for the washing away of the unholy sinners wrong doings and filthiness(spiritually speaking). Many supposed Christians, sadly, do not live a pure life, and are horrible examples of Christ. It’s no surprise there are so many non believers. I will pray that god will reveal himself as real to you personally. Look up on you tube, “heaven and hell testimonials”. It’s not a coincidence so many videos of Ppl who don’t know each other have seen heaven and hell and lived to tell it. They are real places and without being truly saved and knowing god, a person will end up in hell, eternal torment . Literally burn in a lake of fire and feel the pain but never die . And I’ve heard that the smell of burning flesh wants to make Ppl die, just the smell alone. I’ve heard more than one person say that, that have been brought to hell and back. May god enlighten you in Jesus name. He loves u and wants to know u

    • Cindy -  November 23, 2016 - 2:56 pm

      they will remember me when the sing Christmas carols. And at mass through war and famine. Love my reighndeer.

    • Lisa -  December 4, 2016 - 11:20 am

      Oh goodness…I think it is a little off topic and way too literal…people who kill in the name of Christ cannot be Christ followers because he would never do that…if they knew their bibles…they would know that…I don’t really like the label of Christian…I prefer Christ follower…I’m not a label nor does believing in Christ require you to darken the door of a building…I’m a person with sin nature….forgiven …by the grace of God…by the blood of Christ…and have that one on one relationship with God. As for a moral code…all religions aside it’s just basic kindness love and honesty…any race…religion or creed should follow the so called set of rules…the human being as a whole would benefit as would the communities….and the u.s.a.

    • Ninos -  December 7, 2016 - 3:30 pm

      You’re so shallow.

      You buy into anything.

      Who told those were Christians.
      Crusaders killed eastern Christians.

      Spain was satanic.

      You said that you didnt have time to research. Well make time for it. The Lord awaits you for you are more worth than you are to yourself.


  4. Nae Amarie -  January 6, 2016 - 6:16 am

    The people who made up X-mas are just trying to take GOD out of chirstmas . Chirstmas is really about Jesus’ birthday.

    • da da da daa -  January 6, 2016 - 5:27 pm


      … Wow.

      Please find ‘god’ in Christmas for me. I’d love to know.

    • Stephanie -  January 6, 2016 - 7:35 pm

      Everybody knows that Christmas is Jesus birthday but if people say x-mas it’s still the same day, same word, same meaning but partial different spelling, if you think that the people is trying to take God out of Christmas then your wrong because it still on the same day December 25th every year

      • K C -  December 6, 2016 - 12:39 pm

        The bible (NOT MAN), never says anything about celebrating his birth. Man started this in ancient times. It is all about his death. We are to gather together on the first day of the week to honor his death with his memorial service he set up with his apostles. This is what Sunday service is all about first and foremost. It is the Lord’s day every week. The singing, studying and preaching of his word to learn is also a part of it.

        This is a pagan holiday, along with the Catholics. Mass is a Catholicism word and Christ was added to make Christmas. It is not a wonder that they didn’t use Mary…since they worship her even more so. There is no authority from God about this ever! Nor Mary.
        Christmas is Not a biblical word or term. Holiday is from the same cult denomination. Holiday is a term for their Holy Days. Now it has been taken to another level.

        Not my quote…but true…….
        A true Christian would want to examine everything they say, because Jesus said in Matthew 12:36-37, “But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” We will now set aside all of the customs, glitter and traditions of Christmas, which were taken from pagan witchcraft and popularized by the Roman Catholic Church, and we will focus on the true meaning of the words, “Merry Christmas!” it is Not of God but of Man!

    • LenG -  January 21, 2016 - 3:38 pm

      I am no prolific Cristian but I do believe and agree your remarks. If X-Mas is quoted instead of Christmas, Then the writer is taking CHRIST out of Christmas, and as ou so rightly state CHRISTMAS is about CHRIST’S BIRT.

      • Nella Nottus -  January 31, 2016 - 9:35 pm

        Considering the article explains that the X literally means “Christ” in Greek, I’m guessing you didn’t even read the article.

        • Scott McDonald -  October 19, 2016 - 10:49 pm

          Right on.

    • Nella Nottus -  January 31, 2016 - 9:28 pm

      Really? Did you even read the article? It explains in black and white that the letter X is the Greek letter chi, and that Xmas has been used since the 1500′s as a legitimate term for Christmas. So you’re telling me that Christians in the 1500′s were trying to take God out of Christmas? Wow.

      • Not Greek -  September 28, 2016 - 5:18 pm

        When Greek, do as the Greek do, speak as the Greek speak, I am English, I choose to speak English only so I say Christmas, keeping Christ in Christmas.

    • Brooks -  December 2, 2016 - 8:25 am

      Nae Amarie, you should try reading before ranting. The article is only a few paragraphs long, and it explains what you missed.

      Also, you spelled Christmas wrong – both times – while ranting about people “taking GOD of of chirstmas” (sic). Who is Chirst?

    • Rev. Marcia Urban -  December 4, 2016 - 2:36 pm

      The X in Xmas is the Greek first letter of the name of Christ—Chi. In Greek the name is Christos.

  5. MedicalNP -  January 6, 2016 - 1:03 am

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  6. Blarg -  January 5, 2016 - 6:51 am

    “Do you find the word “Xmas,” as an abbreviation for Christmas, offensive? Many people do.”

    Nope, literally nobody outside the US finds this offensive. We all have more important things to worry about.

    As it’s too late to wish everyone a merry Xmas, I’ll have to wish you all an early happy Epiphany!

    • Yadaydaydadad -  January 6, 2016 - 4:01 pm

      Bro it is kinda cool and dumb.

    • Bet -  March 4, 2016 - 6:58 pm

      To Blarg: Merry Xmas to you! And to those who not only read the article, but comprehend it! Be well, all of you!

  7. Tia -  January 4, 2016 - 2:46 pm

    Am embarrassed meaning as a Greek, I should have known.

  8. Tia -  January 4, 2016 - 2:45 pm

    Thank you for that wonderful explanation re Xmas.

    Thanks for writing Christos in Greek as well.
    I am embarrassed to say did not know the X in Xmas was originally from the Greek alphabet.

    You are an invaluable website to society.
    Thank you so much.

  9. Bob -  January 4, 2016 - 7:09 am

    Happy Festivus for the rest of us!

  10. Shriya -  January 2, 2016 - 3:10 am

    sorry i posted the same msg twice..

  11. Shriya -  January 2, 2016 - 3:09 am


    I have a question… Does Christ even exist?? I am not a Christian so i dunno… Just wanted to clarify my doubt..

    • lala -  January 5, 2016 - 5:37 pm

      yes, he does exist. he in us and in our everyday lives !!!

      • Rob -  January 6, 2016 - 6:27 pm

        So does oxygen…

    • jazz -  January 6, 2016 - 3:10 pm

      yes Christ is real he is the reason why you have a life on this earth right now

    • saidu bhor bangura -  January 7, 2016 - 9:05 am

      Your question about the existence of Jesus Christ is a surprise to me.
      Christ birth, life and the wonders and also His death, resurrection, accession and His coming back is in the Bible. Take the Bible turn to the books of Mathew,Mark,Luke and John and read,

    • Drew -  January 8, 2016 - 2:37 am

      Shriya, YES, Christ exists. I have seen miracles through Christ. He once walked the earth. He died for all people and rose from the grave for even doubters to see. He went back yo heaven but will return again. Accept Christ as your Lord and accept that He saved you. Ask Him into your heart. Seek Him. See what happens.

    • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:12 am

      I suspect you’re trolling everyone. However, I’ll feed this trollage.

      There is document-evidence of a man named Jesus. I have seen none of this firsthand, but I don’t really care that much.

      I have heard rumours of documents that may or may not be the prosecution of a Roman soldier who raped a Jewish woman – whose name may or may not be the same as that of Jesus’ mother. You know what the theorists ‘may or may not be’ saying!

      Even if these documents do exist, even if all the dates and names match up… ultimately, they ‘prove’ nothing, not even what’s actually on them.

      Faith is a personal thing, and there are many degrees of it. To some degree, the faith of each individual is what holds a civilisation together. Without person A believing that person B is who he says he is (in the most mundane matters even!) whether person B is or is not is irrevelvant. This can cut both ways. There is a balance between faith/gullibility and reasonable ‘checking’ on what have been presented to one as facts. I personally believe that no matter the degree of reliance on honesty (“I am a police officer.”) versus checking systems (“Here is my police officer badge. You can verify it by calling the police and checking it against what they say is the identity of the officer whose badge number it is.”), more people will express an opinion that the ballance is too much of one, not enough of the other, than will state that they think the balance is just right.

      Ultimately, what /you/ believe, about this world or the next, is up to you. Even if there /is/ a right or wrong answer, it’s not /my/ place to tell you that answer is this or that. I’m just some person on the internet, after all! :P

      My advice? Don’t hurry. Rush ‘answers’ tend to get replaced sooner or later, in my experience. If this is /really/ a big deal to you (and with so many billions of people alive right now, odds are it is to somebody) then take your time. Find out what information is available, from the easily-acquired copies of the Bible to whatever else you may consider in terms of whether it’s relevant to this or not, which might /not/ be as easy to locate and study.

      Ultimately, the question you asked was binary: yes or no?

      I hope you find an answer that you can live with. Even if that answer is, ‘Meh, I’ve got higher priorities than this after all.’ :P

    • Terry -  December 6, 2016 - 8:43 pm

      If you are not a Republican you should know now that they do exist.

  12. Shriya -  January 2, 2016 - 3:05 am

    I have a question….. Does Christ even exist or no because i m not a Christian n i dunno…. Just wanted to clarify..

    • jay -  June 19, 2016 - 8:45 am

      ofc how u think the world came about by a big bang that theory is obviously stupid

  13. Me -  December 30, 2015 - 11:54 am

    This article was great.

    • Cowboy -  December 31, 2015 - 2:24 pm


  14. Derick -  December 29, 2015 - 7:15 pm

    The Christians think they have all the answers but they don’t. The Atheists think they have all the answers and 9 times out of 10 they do. If reality and progress was left up to the Christians we’d still be rubbing rocks together to make a fire. Don’t mean to bash Christians but they never have answers to
    life.If they did we’d have people living on other planets but instead we have people living in Fairy Tales who talk to them.

    • an -  December 31, 2015 - 10:42 am

      Get saved and lean not on you vain musings and misunderstandings….

      Merry Belated CHRISTmas and have a Year!

    • Nik -  January 1, 2016 - 5:02 am

      Answer me some questions then, what is the meaning of life? Why are you here? Don’t you find it strange that you are on this magnificent with no purpose and you came out of nothing? Christians don’t live in fairytales, they are just optimists and hope that God will provide, and that is much better than sitting in your phone and hoping that God does not exists, while knowing that you are wrong. Happy New Year, I hope you will have some things be opened to you 2016!

    • WholeAndBlessed -  January 1, 2016 - 7:53 pm

      What makes you think the bible is a Fairy Tale if atheists are really think the are the real deal than how come you cant even prove how we got here, the big bang is a theory, sounds like a bunch of crap no offense but i dont think that we happened to just be in the right place where the earth was perfectly placed where it wasnt too hot or too cold, if the earth was to love like 2 cm closer to the sun we would proabably all die due to the global warming you guys dont have legitimate proof about. if we where too 2 cm farther away from the sun we would freeze to death and the global warming thing would be an absolute joke (it is already). I think the earth and nature and so on is too perfect for it to all be chance, there was a mastermind behind it and that was God weather you acknowledge it or not, but I’m not going to put my trust in scientists that dont know how to cure certain diseases like pancreatic cancer, or other global problems, im not saying they cant solve any but there are somethings that we just they can not prove and probably never will figure out.

    • hillbily -  January 2, 2016 - 2:49 pm

      you are rude derrik

    • chisc -  January 4, 2016 - 8:48 am

      i am so sorry but i think you are very worng.

    • someone -  January 5, 2016 - 1:09 pm

      you cant judge other religions.

    • Kailem Irwin -  January 5, 2016 - 6:48 pm

      I don’t think many people understand what Derick is saying; He is saying that ALL Christians are of lower intellect than, 9/10 Atheists. Which literally makes no sense might I add. To be a Christian is to decide to choose a path of what is morally right as described by Jesus Christ/God (in the bible). Furthermore, in the bible it teaches to lean toward intellectual wealth; Which by modern standards’ is completely removed because of all existential belief’s influencing young minds so far back as the 60′s to WANT things NOW (on advertisements via television and radio) , rather than thinking about the long term affect most things in our modern society have been distorting for pleasure and sloth’s sake. Moreover, assuming that ALL Christians are dull minded is to be arrogant and self obsessed (No offense it’s just a fact) because if one considers oneself to be smarter than an entire religion, there for in a Materialist’s perspective or through deductive reasoning, essentially what Derick is saying is that ONE part of society is dumber than the other, which is incorrect because it’s all about perseverance, determination and love for knowledge that makes someone smart, and NOT their religion. (Although some may argue that if their religion teaches to learn consistently, then of course you can claim that as your primary motivator).

      To answer some questions:
      Yes, Jesus was a legitimate historical figure, as there is scientific proof of a Being known as ‘Jesus’ to have walked this earth approximately predating back 2049BC from our present date.

      To be an optimist is to be blissfully ignorant of the pessimistic perspective. So to consider both views is what should be done.

      Personally, I believe in the morals that the Bible teaches, but I am emotionally incapable of feeling anything toward god himself.
      (I’m probably a sociopath (or simply couldn’t care any less :P )).

      I wish everyone a good year! :)

      • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 6:44 am

        I think everybody who responded to that comment, fed a troll.

    • Kelly -  January 16, 2016 - 6:59 am

      @Derick – What in the world are you talking about? Nothing you said makes sense. You are trying not to bash Christians, but that’s exactly what you did. Rubbing rocks together? Lol… Did you think Christ was a caveman? Fairy tales? The Bible is not a bedtime story, but I bet you’re not open minded enough to read it, and THEN decide for yourself what you believe instead of allowing the world to influence your thoughts?
      Do YOU have the answers to life? Is there scientific evidence for everything? A sunset? Can you quantify love? What are the ten questions that are so commonly asked that atheists always answer correctly 9 out of 10 times?
      I don’t have all the answers and I would never pretend to, but I will tell you that I am around atheists and agnostics all the time, and as a Christian, I don’t think atheists answer more correct questions than I do. Intelligence doesn’t have much to do with this… Or maybe that is one of the answers I am answering incorrectly. If so, please show me how intelligence applies.

      Derick, there are many “Christians” who say they are Christians, but use it as excuse to sin. Let me be the first to apologize for them because they could be a huge reason you feel we can’t answer as many questions correctly as atheists can. On the same side of the coin, Christians do sin. We fight sin everyday. If a Christian tells you they are sinless, they are sinning because they are not being truthful. We struggle. Christianity is about accountability, open mindedness, humility, integrity, and so many other things we practice living everyday. As a Christian, the difference between myself and the “Christians” I spoke of earlier is that I have the desire to right my wrongs, and I take responsibility for my wrongs, without offering excuses, or blaming someone else for choices I have made.

      Contempt without prior investigation doesn’t place you any higher up than others. In fact, I bet your credibility is damaged when you do that.

      Read, read, read. And then, don’t knock it until you try it!!

    • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:17 am

      You left out the Buddhists. Oh, and other folks who are neither Christian nor atheist.

      My money’s on the agnostics, the ones questioning their theological direction. They could pick any of the above, or even try to forge new paths! :P

    • Mother -  February 10, 2016 - 8:06 am

      “Derick”– well That wasn’t biased at all…

    • Brat -  June 15, 2016 - 11:34 am

      If Atheists have all the answers 9 times out of 10 then why are we not living on other planets?

  15. JULESS -  December 27, 2015 - 9:29 pm


  16. Anonymous -  December 27, 2015 - 9:12 pm

    I’ve read through a lot of this and have only one conclusion… no matter what anyone on this thread is saying NONE of these folks can change the truth and NONE of these folks are going to change anyone’s minds… BUT… I’m glad folks are calling out the inaccuracies so folks don’t just get to tell lies and try to play it off as the truth… unchallenged.

  17. j. shorn -  December 27, 2015 - 11:59 am

    Most of the replies make sense – HOWEVER ~ ALL THE REPLIES that just want to make the person making the reply seem to be superior to the person who made a reply that may not be grammatically correct is NOT A WAY TO REPLY TO ANYONE’S COMMENT!!!!


  18. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) -  December 26, 2015 - 2:05 am

    REMOVE CHRIST OUT OF “”Christ”"mas please.

    I always pronounce it as “Eksmas” and spell it like Xmas/X’mas/X-Mas or sometimes even as Exmas/Eksmas.

    It’s a stolen pagan holiday, after all. Jesus wasn’t born on Dec 25th also.

    There’s nothing Christian about Christmas. It got bastardized into something international, a lot of non-Christians celebrate it so better unchristianize it. No need to shove propaganda…

    • Ris -  January 26, 2016 - 10:42 pm

      Yeah. As a Christian, I wish other Christians were aware of the real meaning behind Christmas.. Or better know as Saturnalia.

      You’re all worshiping a SUN GOD . !!

      Jesus was born in the middle of June! Think about it. The shepherds would not have been out in the cold with their flock if it were Winter (December).

      I have stopped celebrating and being a part of Saturnalia (giving gifts, having a “tree” or idol) as Jesus himself tells us that we should not Worship him with Pagan holidays.

      Do you even know what you’re saying when you say “Merry Christmas” ? Merry obviously means joyful, happy, cheeful.
      Christ is the title given to Jesus of Nazareth
      And ‘mass’ of ‘mas’ in Latin is literally translating to ‘dismissal’

      Therefore, “Merry Christmas” translates to “Merry Dismissal of Christ”

      Is that the real message that we should be sending as Christians?

      Wake up, brothers and sisters.

      Seek the truth, and it shall set you free.

      YES. It actually requires you to look stuff up.

      • Pineapple -  May 16, 2016 - 5:52 pm

        And the award for best comment goes to…..Ris!!!! It seems like you questioned what you were taught, did not blindly follow the flock of sheeple, and did the work to seek out answers and truth. You were able to state your position and deliver information without being condescending or judgemental. The sad part is, is that a HUGE, LARGE, VAST majority of “Christians” are unaware of what you stated, yet a HUGE, LARGE, VAST majority of NON Christians do know these things. Nice job.


      • Brat -  June 15, 2016 - 11:42 am

        I guess you got your facts wrong. Saturnalia was a Roman festival. The poet Ambrosius Theodosius Macrobius wrote another Saturnalia, describing a banquet of pagan literary celebrities in Rome during the festival. Classicists date the work to between AD 383 and 430, so it describes a Saturnalia alive and well under Christian emperors. The Christian calendar of Polemius Silvus, written around AD 449, mentions Saturnalia, recording that ‘it used to honour the god Saturn’. This suggests it had by then become just another popular carnival.
        Christmas apparently started – like Saturnalia – in Rome, and spread to the eastern Mediterranean. The earliest known reference to it commemorating the birth of Christ on December 25th is in the Roman Philocalian calendar of AD 354. Provincial schisms soon resulted in different Christian calendars. The Orthodox Church in the Eastern (Byzantine) half of the Roman Empire fixed the date of Christmas at January 6th, commemorating simultaneously Christ’s birth, baptism and first miracle.
        So please don’t jump into conclusions like that. When we celebrate someone’s Birthday we don’t worship him/her we share happiness. And that is what Christmas means to everyone. I hope you understand.

    • Terry -  December 6, 2016 - 8:49 pm

      Sorry to inform you, but X predates the English spelling for Christmas. X was symbolic for Christ.

  19. Jeel -  December 25, 2015 - 3:42 am

    Well, it does no good trying to force a horse to drink water.
    Truth remains Truth irrespective of your believe, or opinion.
    If you don’t beleive in Jesus, when He will come, you will believe, though then, it will be too late.
    If you don’t believe in Hell, when you get there you will believe. Its a matter of time.
    Don’t believe in death and let’s see whether you will live forever here on earth.

    All things are mine says the LORD, days were fashioned for man, not man for days. I can chose any day to celebrate CHRISTmas. I can chose January, February, match etc any month any day.
    I have that liberty in the holy ghost, so if I agree with my fellow Christians to do it on the 25th of Dec, then it is also agreed in heaven. Whatever you do , do it in the name of the LORD.

    I Praise God for this confidence I have in Him.

    • inChristdkc -  December 31, 2015 - 5:59 am

      Well said Jeel!! Hope you have a Christ filled day everyday!

    • WholeAndBlessed -  January 1, 2016 - 7:57 pm

      Jesus loves you too, hope you have a very blessed and 2016 full of Gods miraculous acts in your life, 2016 will a be a year of signs and wonders for you and your family, God Bless :)

    • Aifekelu -  January 3, 2016 - 8:12 am

      Merry Christmas to you dear. Whatever anyone says here will not change the mentality of a TRUE Christian. I am for Christ ALL the days of my life and will celebrate him with my fellow Christians.

    • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:19 am

      I like your comment! Yes, I feel it’s worth me commenting to say this. (Why not, since clearly others are commenting to say less.)

    • Steve Harvey -  February 10, 2016 - 8:20 am

      Good answer, good answer…

  20. Bucky Barnes -  December 24, 2015 - 7:43 pm

    I seems insane to drop the EU out of the canon of Star Wars. I guess Disney’s got to do what Disney’s got to do.

  21. Lenae -  December 24, 2015 - 4:14 pm

    Yeah! I’m the first on the 25th! 00.14!!! Merry Xmas everyone!!!

  22. Dan -  December 24, 2015 - 6:01 am

    Note to all self-righteous Christians and self-righteous atheists: I am fully aware that Jesus Christ probably wasn’t born on December 25, but then again, the calendar we all use today didn’t exist when He was born, so there’s really no way of knowing one way or the other. But now that we have a calendar that we all use, we might as well pick a day to celebrate something as important as the birth of Christ, so December 25 it is, and I really don’t care exactly how it came to be that way either. Christmas is supposed to be a time for Christians to celebrate the birth of our Savior, not bash the Catholic Church for developing a calendar (that’s quite functional, by the way) or settling on December 25 as the day of celebration. And if you can’t handle that, then you can create your own system of date and time from scratch and celebrate Christmas in the summer, for all I care. Good luck with that. Just know that you’d be doing it all out of spite.

    • Garrett -  January 5, 2016 - 9:54 pm

      Actually, places like Ausy (Australia) do celebrate Christmas in the summer. (I am just pointing this out) It is because of where their located on earth…

  23. Jack -  December 24, 2015 - 4:16 am

    Actually Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with celebrating the birth of jesus christ, since it was celebrated in Iraq to celebrate a new year and good crops, and this was being celebrated in 2000 B.C., and since apparently jesus wasn’t born till 3 B.C. that means that Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with the celebration of jesus’ birthday!

    • Harvey -  December 31, 2015 - 11:38 am

      Hmm! I also heard Christmas was a celebration for the sun god created by Constantine!

  24. Brobot -  December 24, 2015 - 2:09 am

    I was so bored at work today… and then I stumbled upon this goldmine.

  25. Steve Summerlin -  December 23, 2015 - 8:59 pm

    I remember going to church and Sunday school, when we were taught that Xmas was bad because it left Christ out of Christmas. Years later as an adult I learned different. It is amazing how the truth gets distorted. Knowledge is power.

  26. K.Somasundaram -  December 22, 2015 - 9:01 pm

    Clarification given as “X” is a Greek term standing for Christ and “MAS” is in place of mass and the day i.e.Dec25 is observed every year as Christ’s birth day in a solemn mass by faithful Christians and as well by many others all over the world.

    • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:20 am


  27. Ishbosh -  December 22, 2015 - 6:12 pm

    I’m liking the thinly veiled attacks and others with outright open hostility; that some of the christians here are displaying with their messages. Makes me glad I’m not among them or take part of their rather disgusting behavior. There are rare respectful christians out there that will not get upset, but can’t seem to find them on there.

    • Mother -  February 10, 2016 - 8:34 am

      Ishbosh– just Wow, how you got “attacks” and “hostility” from any Christian comments, is truly amazing. I see a lot of sarcasm from the other side of the arena frankly. I see a lot of love and encouragement from the Christian comments. It sounds as though you are predisposed to hearing what you want to hear, or perhaps you have your defenses up. Maybe you were treated badly by friends and family for being a non-believer in Christ. For whatever reason that you have clearly misread the intentions of the Christian comments, please accept my sincere regrets on behalf of all well-meaning Christians. We are all sinners and daily fall short of the grace of God. I will pray for you brother/sister.

  28. Unknown -  December 22, 2015 - 5:06 pm

    To any atheists:

    Concerning faith in God:
    Faith is not blindly believing in a big man in the sky who will rain gifts or judgment upon us whenever he feels like it. Faith is believing in an omniscient Creator who has revealed himself in numerous ways. Also, even if Christians couldn’t prove their faith in a God, you couldn’t disprove it. Science can’t disprove God through any experiment or law. Many atheists have said below that there is no God. I simply ask them to prove, without using any moral argument whatsoever, that there is no God. If anyone manages to do this, please reply to this comment. I do not say this to be judgmental, just to ask you to review the facts before stating ideas.
    Concerning contradictions in the Bible:
    Before presenting any contradictions in this comments section, actually go and read the Bible. You can’t say there is a contradiction in a book you haven’t read. For example, if someone told you that a biography of Beethoven said in one chapter that he was deaf and in the next chapter he wasn’t, you couldn’t prove that it was a contradiction unless you actually looked at it in context. The chapter that said he wasn’t deaf may have been referring to the time period in his life before he was deaf and thus there would be no contradiction. So it is in the Bible. Many contradictions are taken out of context and are not real contradictions.
    As a Christian, I don’t believe in evolution. Many Christians are mocked and scorned for this, but many “proofs” of evolution didn’t actually prove anything. Lucy is one of the biggest arguments for evolution that there is, and yet all that was found of Lucy was several small bones. Please correct me if I am mistaken. Once again, I do not say this to be judgmental; I simply find it hard to believe in a fallible theory that has many gaps in its explanations.

    • Anonymous -  December 30, 2015 - 10:01 pm

      Keep in mind that the bible was translated by a committee of 500 men, it states this in the beginning of the bible. How can 500 men agree on what the bible was saying at any time? The bible also is the #1 selling book. Has anyone thought about what it was like before we were born? Maybe it is exactly the same when we die….just nothing.

    • JoeD -  January 1, 2016 - 3:52 pm

      Do you think you’re being profound in saying that atheists can’t disprove the existence of God? This is like a 5 yr old’s argument. Do you think you’re being smart when you tell someone they can’t disprove that you have an invisible, purple dragon living in your underwear drawer as well? You understand the absurdity of this right? Have you never heard the phrase “you can’t prove a negative?” I mean, try to keep up!

      As far as contradictions in the Bible, you’re up there pretty far on your high horse if you think no one who claims contradictions has read the Bible. In fact those who have read the Bible tend to understand that the contradictions are extreme and many.

      No one cares if you believe in evolution or not. The truth of something is not dependent on who believes it and who doesn’t. Evolution is a fact regardless of your inability to comprehend it. And Lucy is NOT one of the biggest arguments for evolution. Your diatribe exposes your ignorance of the subject.

      “I simply find it hard to believe in a fallible theory that has many gaps in its explanations.” – then I assume you completely disregard gravity as it has many gaps in its explanation as well. Understand that The THEORY of evolution is not a theory in the vernacular but a scientific theory. It is an explanation for an observed phenomenon. Evolution is the observed phenomenon and the Theory seeks to explain it. Get it? That being said there are few “gaps” in the Theory of Evolution and nothing that would lead any sensible person to dismiss it.The mechanisms by which it works are where questions still remain not that it has or has not occurred.

      • Garrett -  January 5, 2016 - 10:03 pm

        Actually, atheists do not believe in god, or any other religion. There is a whole SEPARATE religion for not being able to dis or approve the existence of God. Also, there is no solid proof of evolution, as just because there are monkeys and fish left doesn’t prove anything. And, if it did happen, why are there still animals left? And to finish this off, (this doesnt apply to any religion/race/gender/etc.) What if time is just made up in our heads? There is nothing to ever prove its existence, as thinks like mph or average time is just how fast we are moving to other objects. Also, no, I am not on any drugs.

        • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:25 am

          Agnosticism is not a religion. It’s a state of questioning. There are a lot of ways one may do this; some are less public than others.

          P.S. Don’t anybody who happens to be Lutheran, give an oppositional-defiant teenager a book like Luther’s Small Catechism, in which every page ends, “This is most certainly true,” and then react in shock, disapproval, or any other flavour of that rainbow when he or she responds, “Oh really now?” and decides to see for him or herself! If you didn’t know that was coming, you’re in the wrong role for them!

          Have fun, folks!

      • Shriya -  March 6, 2016 - 2:04 am

        Well said JoeD…. Totally agree with you…

  29. JG -  December 22, 2015 - 3:27 pm

    It’s seen a lot, Christians called foolish for believing in Jesus from the secular world. Funny thing is, the Bible says something similar. It is utter foolishness… if it weren’t true.

    So as one can see from the comments, people will believe in what they want believe, regardless of facts out there, both in religion and science. But when you’re standing in front of God, if you don’t believe in Jesus, how will you convince the perfect wisdom of God. That will be the utmost foolishness.

    Anyhoo… back to the article itself, great article, accurate, good journalism, good job, for a change, in this crappy internet society.

  30. sav -  December 22, 2015 - 7:09 am

    I think, even though X was referred to as Christ centuries ago, it still shouldn’t be used in Christmas, as Christ. That is what Christmas is all about. Celebrating Christ, and what he gave us, Xmas takes the Christ out of Christmas, so you shouldn’t use it. This is why churches, greeting cards, and song books don’t use Xmas. (This is all is my opinion, if you agree, please reply.)

  31. TSH -  December 21, 2015 - 5:05 pm

    Look at all these negative, aggressive comments and opinions over something so innocent as asking, “What Is the X in Xmas?” Then we sit back and wonder why most wars have religious origins as the impetus. From me to all who read this: “Merry Christmas, or whichever beautiful faith expresses your good will to humanity this time of year, and may God bless us all.”

  32. 1 Corinthians 13 -  December 21, 2015 - 2:29 pm

    To all those who claim the name of Christ: Please show love and patience to Tracey and the other dissenters. Whatever else may be true of Christ’s life and the celebration of his birth, The gospels make it clear that he first and foremost responded out of love for his disciples and detractors (think Matthew and Zacchaeus). As followers of Christ, we are called to emulate him.

    • Pw -  January 6, 2016 - 9:35 am


  33. HARRY CUTIE BEAR -  December 21, 2015 - 2:25 pm

    WHOOPS I was in caps lock this like past time whom I was with laugh so that is audable

  34. Joe -  December 21, 2015 - 2:13 pm

    What about Windows XP?

    As you’ve said, Χριστός means “Christ”.

    Now look at the first two letters in the Greek word “Χριστός “.

    The second letter is not a “p”, it is the Greek for the letter “r”.

    “XP” in Roman Catholic liturgy, seen emblazoned on ceremonial robes, stands for “XR”.

    Yes, “Christ”.

    Is that what Bill Gates had in mind when he so called his operating system in succession to Windows 95?

    I’ve sent questions to Microsoft, but they’re a bunch of arrogant, pompous lot.

    Far too high in the stratosphere not to see common mortals as nothing more, perhaps a lot less, than worms.

    • Siva Smith -  January 19, 2016 - 7:28 am

      Linux. Nuff said? :P

  35. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) -  December 21, 2015 - 11:25 am


    • Mark -  December 30, 2015 - 5:10 am

      Does it really matter if when Christians celebrate Christmas if it coincides with a pagan holiday or not? If Christmas trees, candelas in the windows, are all pagan practices or if the ‘X’ in XMAS stands for Christ? People get too hung up on things. As a Christian, I could care less if Christmas was celebrated in August. It is the meaning that I put upon Christmas and the celebration of the birth of Christ that matters to Christians. The Christmas Tree, Candles, and so on are all symbols that are used in the celebration of Christmas and could be any other material thing as long as the meaning that Christians attached to the physical objects reminded them of the birth of Christ. It is not the day, the physical objects, or the ‘X’ that hold any meaning, it is the celebration of the birth of Christ. I celebrate His birth every day because without it I would not be saved.

  36. stuart -  December 18, 2015 - 2:06 pm

    Actually, X was used well before the term Christmas was used.
    The symbol for Christianity was actually an X with a P on top of it with the bottom part of the P connecting to the centre of the X.
    It was a symbol used by the first holy Roman emperor Constantine.
    It’s very probable that the P disappeared over time leaving the X before Christmas was used instead.

    • Rick Jordan -  December 21, 2015 - 2:26 pm

      I like actually dont agree

    • Rick Jordan -  December 21, 2015 - 2:27 pm

      I think that sometimes people can be wrong about whom they are bein

    • Thomas Spengler -  December 22, 2015 - 9:12 am

      The primary purpose of the “X” is to take Christ out of Christmas. This is part of a plan by leftists to disintegrate the family, tradition, religion and eventually the nation. It is part of the tool set called “political correctness” (a.k.a. “cultural marxism”).This process is called “the long march”, a sort of “terraforming” to make the country intellectually and ideologically ready to accept communism. But before this happens, the military industrial complex will subjugate the world…the wannabe communists and the muslims etc. are just tools to get us to that point. Now you know what it’s really about.

    • Gaylan -  December 22, 2015 - 10:27 am

      Actually, the X and P combination is still very much in use as a Christian symbol in churches. Here you have the X (Chi) and P (Rho) which are the first two Greek letters in “Christos,” the Greek word for Messiah, from which we get the English version “Christ.” It is an early and lasting Christian symbol representing the cross.

    • sunita kumar -  December 23, 2015 - 3:17 am

      so this whole article was wrong

    • Ignacio F. Bobadilla -  December 23, 2015 - 3:51 am

      Stuart, You are near the goal, but not quite. Constantine was not the first Holy Roman Emperor, but the first Roman Emperor who converted to Christianism. His mother was St. Helen.
      The legend says that the night before he faced Maxentius at the battle of Milvius Bridge and angel appeared in his dreams and told him “In hoc signum vinces” (with this sign you shall conquer) and presented him with the “Labarus” which had the Greek Lettes “chi” (X) and “r” (P – rho) the first two letters of the name of Christ in Geek (Χριστός).
      He substituted the ensign “S.P.Q.R.” for the Labarus and defeated Maxentius.at Pontemolle or Ponte Milvio at the very doors of Rome.
      Ignacio F. Bobadilla . From Barcelona

    • Bart -  December 23, 2015 - 9:53 am

      The “P” is the Greek letter rho (like “r”), the second letter of Christos (sorry, I don’t know how to post Greek letters). The rho was not so much on top of as just along with the first letter, Chi (X). The resulting Christogram is known as a Chi-Rho, and is along the lines of a monogram.

    • Cheryl -  December 23, 2015 - 10:36 am

      There is nothing Christian about Christmas. It is a pagan holiday, and has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus.

      The Bible does not give the date of Jesus’ birth, nor does it say that we should celebrate his birthday. As McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopedia states: “The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of NT [New Testament] origin.”

      Instead, an examination of the history of Christmas exposes its roots in pagan religious rites. The Bible shows that we offend God if we try to worship him in a way that he does not approve of.—Exodus 32:5-7.

      History of Christmas customs

      1. Celebrating Jesus’ birthday: “The early Christians did not celebrate [Jesus’] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—The World Book Encyclopedia.

      2. December 25: There is no proof that Jesus was born on that date. Church leaders likely chose this date to coincide with pagan festivals held on or around the winter solstice.

      3. Gift-giving, feasting, partying: The Encyclopedia Americana says: “Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas. From this celebration, for example, were derived the elaborate feasting, the giving of gifts, and the burning of candles.” The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that “all work and business were suspended” during Saturnalia.

      4. Christmas lights: According to The Encyclopedia of Religion, Europeans decorated their homes “with lights and evergreens of all kinds” to celebrate the winter solstice and to combat evil spirits.

      5. Mistletoe, holly: “The Druids ascribed magical properties to the mistletoe in particular. The evergreen holly was worshiped as a promise of the sun’s return.”—The Encyclopedia Americana.

      6. Christmas tree: “Tree worship, common among the pagan Europeans, survived after their conversion to Christianity.” One of the ways in which tree worship survived is in the custom of “placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house in the midwinter holidays.”—Encyclopædia Britannica.

      • Blessed at re-Birth -  January 1, 2016 - 11:58 am


        1. Celebrating Jesus’ birthday: “The early Christians did not celebrate [Jesus’] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—The World Book Encyclopedia.

        2. December 25: There is no proof that Jesus was born on that date. Church leaders likely chose this date to coincide with pagan festivals held on or around the winter solstice.

        3. Gift-giving, feasting, partying: The Encyclopedia Americana says: “Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas. From this celebration, for example, were derived the elaborate feasting, the giving of gifts, and the burning of candles.” The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that “all work and business were suspended” during Saturnalia.


        5. Mistletoe, holly: “The Druids ascribed magical properties to the mistletoe in particular. The evergreen holly was worshiped as a promise of the sun’s return.”—The Encyclopedia Americana.

        6. Christmas tree: “Tree worship, common among the pagan Europeans, survived after their conversion to Christianity.” One of the ways in which tree worship survived is in the custom of “placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house in the midwinter holidays.”—Encyclopædia Britannica.

        • Xtian -  January 9, 2016 - 11:49 am

          Technically Allah and Jehovah are the same God, both are Abrahamic religions, as is Judiasm. Islam breaks off to Christianity when Abraham has two sons, one by his wife, and one by her slave woman. Isaac is who we get Christianity through, Ishmael is who we get Islam through. In fact, Islam also reveres Christ, or Isa, as a prophet and messiah, although they do not believe in the Trinity. Muhammad is their most important prophet. So yeah, pray to Allah, Jehovah, God, whatever name you give…it’s the exact same God, it’s only the tenets of our faith that are different.

    • pavlos -  December 24, 2015 - 11:57 am

      Correct. the P is the corresponding Greek letter of R. X and R drawn as perfectly described by you, represented the 2 first letters of the word Christ.

    • Jocelyn Co Chua -  December 25, 2015 - 7:11 pm

      Holyday – Is it right to say :

      Christmas is a holyday.
      Easter Day is a holyday

      Holy – sacred day coz it is related to Christ or God or something of religious meaning. To celebrate & give importance to the remarkable Holyday offices are close, no classes, etc.

      Holiday all remarkable days which do not have religious origin & to celebrate & give importance to remarkable days, offices are close, no classes, etc.

      Or we should only say or use the word Holiday for all those holidays.

      Is the word Holyday used only for variation?

    • sonia -  December 26, 2015 - 9:07 am

      The symbol which you referred to as the symbol of christianity is still used and is called chi ro.It was used by the emporor Constantine for victory

    • Cxx -  December 27, 2015 - 8:22 am

      16. And mention in the Book (the Qur’an, O Muhammad , the story of) Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east.

      17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Ruh [angel Jibrael (Gabriel)], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects.

      18. She said: “Verily! I seek refuge with the Most Beneficent (Allah) from you, if you do fear Allah.”

      19. (The angel) said: “I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son.”

      20. She said: “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?”

      21. He said: “So (it will be), your Lord said: ‘That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah).’ ”

      22. So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).

      23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: “Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!”

      24. Then [the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrael (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: “Grieve not! Your Lord has provided a water stream under you;

      25. “And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you.”

      26. “So eat and drink and be glad, and if you see any human being, say: ‘Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.’”

      27. Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: “O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariya (an unheard mighty thing).

      28. “O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (Aaron) [not the brother of Musa (Moses), but he was another pious man at the time of Maryam (Mary)]! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman.”

      29. Then she pointed to him. They said: “How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?”

      30. “He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;”

      31. “And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salat (prayer), and Zakat, as long as I live.”

      32. “And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.

      33. “And Salam (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!”

      34. Such is ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (it is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).

      35. It befits not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son [this refers to the slander of Christians against Allah, by saying that 'Iesa (Jesus) is the son of Allah]. Glorified (and Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, “Be!” and it is.

      36. ['Iesa (Jesus) said]: “And verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path. (Allah’s Religion of Islamic Monotheism which He did ordain for all of His Prophets).” [Tafsir At-Tabari]

      37. Then the sects differed [i.e. the Christians about 'Iesa (Jesus)], so woe unto the disbelievers [those who gave false witness by saying that 'Iesa (Jesus) is the son of Allah] from the meeting of a great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection, when they will be thrown in the blazing Fire).

      38. How clearly will they (polytheists and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) see and hear, the Day when they will appear before Us! But the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) today are in plain error.

      39. And warn them (O Muhammad ) of the Day of grief and regrets, when the case has been decided, while (now) they are in a state of carelessness, and they believe not.

      40. Verily! We will inherit the earth and whatsoever is thereon. And to Us they all shall be returned,

  37. WayneMV -  December 15, 2015 - 5:58 pm

    “X has been an acceptable representation of the word ‘Christ’ for hundreds of years.”

    Actually, Χ (chi) has been. But Greek χ and English x are not interchangeable!

    One doesn’t use an English letter for abbreviating a Greek word; one uses the appropriate Greek letter. (If the abbreviation is going to use an English letter, it would need to be C and not X, since C is the first letter of Christ. But use of the Greek letter chi is more traditional in this context.

    Since majiscule Greek Χ and uppercase English X look identical in most fonts, many people confuse them. But in UNICODE they are distinct characters. The article above mistakenly used the wrong one throughout.

    • Chenemi -  December 22, 2015 - 12:56 pm

      Weldone Wayne. You saved the day.

    • kimon -  December 22, 2015 - 1:32 pm

      Western Europeans used Chi as a stand-in for CH often – look at some Templar seals.

    • Captain Quirk -  December 23, 2015 - 2:04 am

      You are assuming that the development and evolution of language are logical. As we all know, it is not.

    • David -  December 24, 2015 - 12:07 am

      They are not different on my computer. The Helvetica “X” in the article text exactly matches the Lucida chi when I insert that symbol. Therefore, it is possible the article confused the two, that cannot be proven by the text itself.

    • William Noel -  December 25, 2015 - 8:54 am

      It is critical that we humans make every attempt to be precisely accurate, especially in the use and explanation of historic symbols and languages.
      Many times throughout our history someone “in authority” makes an inaccurate or fictitious statement and long held truths are lost or altered. Our churches, especially the Catholic Church, is the most frequent offender. Why do Christians not worship on the Sabbath? What is all this fecal matter about “it is a sin to eat meat on Friday”? Why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday on or near the Winter Solstice? Why Christmas trees? Must we kill a beautiful tree to celebrate the birth of the Messiah? If an individual answers these questions he will be on the road to protecting mankind’s truths and history.

    • Michael Coe -  December 25, 2015 - 1:19 pm

      Dearest word-interested people,
      Perhaps we should limit our comments to the subject, rather than make this a into a religious tussle?
      Whatever we use to mark the spot, and in whoever’s name is rather off the topic.
      Having said that, love to everyone, no matter what time of the waning year.

    • Cathy -  December 28, 2015 - 10:21 am

      whatever, by the way you mispelt majuscule

    • Blessed at re-Birth -  January 1, 2016 - 1:05 pm

      IF: X=”chi” or Christ
      AND: “mas”= more or >
      THEN: X > anything before
      OR: Christ is greater than any before Him.

      • Blessed at re-Birth -  January 1, 2016 - 1:25 pm

        To gain entry into heaven you will only have to pass 1 math test question. The ONLY mathematical formula that you must be able to calculate is:

        I + X + T + Y + S = ?

        Iota (i) is the first letter of Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς), Greek for “Jesus”.
        Chi (ch) is the first letter of Christos (Χριστός) X, Greek for “anointed”.
        Theta (th) is the first letter of Theou (Θεοῦ), Greek for “God’s”, the genitive case of Θεóς, Theos,T, Greek for “God”.
        Upsilon (y) is the first letter of (h) uios (Υἱός), Greek for “Son”.
        Sigma (s) is the first letter of sōtēr (Σωτήρ), Greek for “Savior”.

        ANSWER: I + X + T + Y + S = “Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour”

  38. Tracey -  December 13, 2015 - 12:56 am

    1. Saturnalia. Saturnalia is a Pagan holiday that starts on December 17 and ends on December 25. The Christians decided they were going to make Christmas on that day, hopefully to get converts. And since Jesus’ birthday isn’t even in December…

    2. Birthday’s. Early Christians didn’t celebrate birthdays. That was a Pagan thing.

    3. Christmas things. What does a pine tree sitting in your living room have to do with Jesus? Nothing. The Christians stole that idea from the Pagans. They also stole the idea of candles in the window, putting decorations on the tree, and giving presents. (Though Santa Claus isn’t a Pagan thing, the Christians stole that, too).

    4. Easter things. At the beginning of spring, the Pagans would celebrate life buy coloring eggs, because eggs meant the start of a new life and a new season. And bunnies were just cute. And the Christians stole this, too.

    • Peter Shamooni -  December 16, 2015 - 1:19 pm

      Dear Tracey
      As a person who was brought up following Christianity ( Assyrian Church of the East which is one of the first churches that spread the word of Christ when we knew the miracle child was born) we DONT celebrate Christmas on the 25th because that is the day Christ was born. Your doing too deep into this and you need to understand why is it we celebrate on the 25th.

      There was assumption that Christ was born somewhere between the 25th and the 6th of Jan, (Thus the reason we say 12 days of Christmas). As there were no clocks and calendars back then, people came together to unite and agree to celebrate Christmas on the 25th. Or else people would’ve celebrated on the 25th, 26th, 29th etc etc. That’s the reason why. All the churches and religious leaders came together to agree to the 25th.

      I pray that the energy people put into fighting against the faith of Christ start putting in the same amount of energy into seeing Christ did exist, he did create miracles and Christmas (since the 4th – 5th Century) has been used to remember the miracle child.

      Why do people put a star on top of the tree? Not a ball, not a animal, majority put a star. Most people just follow trend. God Bless you all.

      • SuperSniperSal -  December 21, 2015 - 5:42 pm

        Good Day Peter,
        I was impressed with your message, and response to Tracey’s message. I am a Born-Again Christian, Evangelist, and have been studying; Theology,Pneumatology, and Eschatology since 2006. I truly do believe that no one honestly knows when our ‘SAVIOR’ BABY JESUS, was born. Tracey was correct in bringing up the festivities that were carried on in order to worship the ‘Sun god,’ Saturnalia, which almost all non-belivers, pagans, and of course the ‘Roman Empire,’ celebrate or have celebrated since the 3rd. century on December 25th. Because of my place in the Ministry of GOD, many people have often asked me, that if we should not celebrate the birth of ‘CHRIST’ on the 25th. of December, than when should we?? I, nor anybody else who has studied the ‘Word Of GOD,’ Clergy of any kind, or anyone who has studied, not just read, but studied the Holy Bible could not safely say when our ‘DIVINE SAVIOUR, was born. NO ONE!! truly knows.
        For everyone’s information, Our LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, was very specific about which days of the year should be celebrated as festive holidays, or Holy Day’s, which include; Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets(Rosh Hashanah), Day of Atonement(Yom Kippur), Booths(Feast of Tabernacles), Dedication or(Feast of Lights)or Hanukkah, and Purim, however nowhere in the Bible, The Word of GOD, is a celebration of the Birth of CHRIST mentioned. All this Information on the feast days mentioned by our LORD, can be found, in Leviticus 23. the NKJV OR NASB are more simplified, but yet retain their authenticity as taken from the Aramaic, Greek or Hebrew translations. There is so much more interesting information regarding the Birth of CHRIST, and all the festivals or feasts as mentioned by Our LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. If anyone would be interested, than please respond to this message. Thank you all for your time, and GOD Bless you all and your loved ones!!
        Your Brother in CHRIST,
        Super Sniper Sal

      • Lori -  December 22, 2015 - 9:57 am

        Thank you, Peter. Merry Christmas!

      • SPQR -  December 22, 2015 - 3:29 pm

        If there were no clocks or calendars back then, how did they know to come together on the 25th…..and at what time to come together?

        Maybe they should’ve used one of these they had around back then.

        …a sun dial, water clock, or candle clock. Used by the ancient world when (and before) the Romans decided to divide the day into 24 hour increments.

        …or a Roman Calendar, or actually by then the Julian Calendar, which we still use a modified version of today.


      • Belle -  December 23, 2015 - 3:52 am

        Well said Mr Peter Shamooni – December 16, 2015 – 1:19 pm

        Here is my take on Xmas – I do not like it at all.

        It is Christmas as in Christ and not X

        Anyone, Please do not spell Christmas as xmas. Christmas stands for Christ. Jesus Christ is really the MAIN reason for the Christmas CELEBRATION.

        Jesus Christ is born to new life and in the end saved us for our sinfulness when he was nailed to the Cross and he died on the CROSS TO SAVE ALL OF US. I don’t even know or how it started that people write xmas to mean CHRISTMAS.

        My most favorite time of the year IS Christmas especially being born in the month of December.

        Merry Christmas and Have a Blessed, Happy, Joyous, Awesome, Amazing, and Wonderful New Year 2016 everyone <3 Amen <3

      • lee -  December 23, 2015 - 7:40 am

        I believe Christ was born around April

      • Daniel Nalbach -  December 23, 2015 - 9:22 am

        @ Peter Shamooni

        Quote: “As there were no clocks and calendars back then”

        This statement needs to be corrected.

        There were both clocks and calendars in Jesus time (and before). Sundials have been in use by many cultures for thousands of years and are quite accurate. The Bible references the hour of the day in numerous passages.

        For example, in Isaiah 38
        7 “This shall be the sign to you from the Lord, that the Lord will do this thing that he has promised: 8 Behold, I will make the shadow cast by the declining sun on the dial of Ahaz turn back ten steps.” So the sun turned back on the dial the ten steps by which it had declined.

        Ancient calendars across many ancient civilizations also abound. The Book of Genesis is clear in chapter 1 that the sun, moon, and stars were placed in the heavens by God to be used for measuring time.

        Gensis 1
        14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.”

        Throughout the Old and New Testament the Bible clearly records the exact calendar month and day of most major events. All feasts and holidays had specific dates of celebration that were carefully observed.

        Therefore, to say that there were no calendars or clocks in Jesus’s time (or before) is simply not true.

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:43 pm

        Wow, you are so ignorant. “They had no calendars in that time.” Hahahahaha!

      • Thomas St. James -  December 24, 2015 - 12:35 am

        The pine tree, the evergreen, unlike other trees, does not die (go dormant) in the winter or any other time of the year, thus symbolizing eternal life. Christmas lights symbolize “The Light of the world” (Christ). Christmas gifts represent the gifts of the Magi. That star, represents the star followed by the Magi. A lot of Christmas traditions have meanings, although some (like reindeer and Frosty the snowman) are just fun.

      • dh -  December 24, 2015 - 11:06 am

        Peter. that was a good try and sentiment. but incorrect. constantine overlayed his religion over christianity for political reasons. true christians would celebrate the birth of the messiaha which is commimerated on the Feast of Tabernacles. This is the true blessing of Jesus he is Immanuel. xmas is an ok holiday, good cheer and gifting,, and all that. but it is not the birthday of our messiaha and Word incarnate!

      • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 10:58 pm

        Merely pointing out that some people say the star is representative of the star that Christ was born under, other people say it was stolen by the Christians (again) from the Wiccan tradition which is a form of paganism.

      • Verlia Brown -  December 27, 2015 - 10:14 am

        Very informative information. It’s good to know the various ideas and meaning around Christmas. Thank you!

      • Gerald Banks -  December 29, 2015 - 12:14 pm

        It is my understanding that the twelves days of Xmas was the time between the birth of Christ and the arrival of the Maji. Many Xians celebrate the Epiphany by exchanging gifts 12 days after the birthday of Jesus which marks the approximate arrival of the Maii who gave gifts to Jesus.

      • Dani Renan -  December 30, 2015 - 4:06 pm

        Birkat Yoma Yalda,
        Sort of close. But probably Jesus was born in the spring. As noted here the 25 which was also the solstice (in the old calendar) was celebrated as Saturnella in Rome. But that actually came from Sabe Yalda from Iran. The celebration of the shortest day (and that days were going to get longer). And the date was the birth of Mithra, who was like the personification of the sun in Zoroastrianism. And how did the Assyrians greet the birth of Mithra? Birkat Yoma Yalda (blessed day of the birth. So the Church of the East just adopted it for Jesus.

        In Rome, Mithra evolved to Sol Invictus – the unconquered Sun.

    • Rob -  December 18, 2015 - 5:56 pm

      You are close about this , but not quite spot on.

    • Dander2002@hotmail.com -  December 20, 2015 - 4:42 pm

      Wow! Over 650 comments and arguments and stories! All over WORDS…. “In the beginning was the word. And the word was with God and the word was God” hmmm….x… Table… Chair… Etc… Not as important as the power behind it. ….

      • onefeather -  December 24, 2015 - 12:56 pm

        Well said.

    • Peter Shamooni -  December 20, 2015 - 5:53 pm

      Hi Tracey

      Merry Christmas to you and good luck to you with your thinking on all the Christian religious events that take place every year.

      You are lost. That’s OK. May God bless you through our all mighty Christ.

      Enjoy your time with family as believers and NON believers happen to do during the 25th December.

      • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 6:55 pm

        Thanks for saying that peter.

      • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 6:57 pm

        Thanks for saying that Peter

        • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 6:59 pm

          Sorry I posted 2 times

      • Nella -  December 25, 2015 - 2:03 am

        I know I’m not Tracey, but I just wanted to say Merry Christmas Peter, Happy New Year, And hope you and your family, friends, relatives, who ever is reading this, have an awesome night, and Enjoy your holidays, God Bless, Enjoy :)

    • greg -  December 21, 2015 - 12:01 pm

      Jesus loves you Tracey

      • Absolution -  December 22, 2015 - 9:25 pm


      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:52 pm

        Jesus loves nothing because he doesn’t exist. No more childish fairytales Greg.

    • 89y98t7tr88t50y8op -  December 21, 2015 - 1:04 pm

      bnhyjtr, uj

      • TSH -  December 21, 2015 - 4:46 pm

        What this heck does that acronym mean? Seriously, people, do not abuse our written languages. I’ve had enough of it. Have the courage to write what you mean by spelling it out and spelling it correctly.

    • Christina -  December 21, 2015 - 1:07 pm

      Dear Tracy, i find your writing very offensive. I AM a Christian and what you have said…..nothing is true… i believe you need a long history lesson..one that involves the true meaning of what CHRISTmas is and one that you do not add your atheist ideas… comment if you would like one…

      • SuperSniperSal -  December 21, 2015 - 5:53 pm

        Good Day Christina,
        It just so happens that what Tracey mentioned, is quite accurate.
        Read the reply message that I left for Peter, and it may help you to understand her original message. Please feel free to respond to this message so that i may help you put your mind at ease!!
        GOD’S Loving Blessings to You!
        Your Brother in CHRIST,

        P/S: Tracey is not an Atheist!!

      • Chuck -  December 22, 2015 - 11:20 am

        Christina, if YOU actually bothered to learn the history of Christianity, you would realize that EVERYTHING Tracey said is true. But, you probably also believe that the bible was written by an invisible sky fairy, so I’m sure there’s no getting through to you. You will continue to believe in only those things which support the narrative painted for you by those who are afraid to accept that this unbelievably short life on earth is all there is.

      • Concerned -  December 23, 2015 - 6:27 pm

        Dear Christina, I find your writing very offensive. I am also a Christian and while i absolutely disagree with Tracy’s views. I refrain from attacking the person rather than their argument(ad hominem). If Tracy’s History education is that important to you, teach her yourself. Educate her on what you believe she is mistaken about. In a conversation that started out with meaningful arguments and thoughts, it is counterproductive to disrespect people by assuming that just because they are wrong, they are atheist. If you really know the true meaning of CHRISTmas, you’ll ty harder next time t be more understanding to the feelings of others. LOL didn’t mean to write you a paragraph but….(Also please don’t turn my comment into an argument. It is nothing to argue about. Just a bit of advice you should really consider.).

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:48 pm

        Most of it is right on. Don’t get your history from fairytales. Grow up, there is no invisible sky daddy.

      • Ivans -  December 24, 2015 - 10:00 am

        Dear Christina, your offense offends me. So what if you are offended? So what if I am offended? I found Tracy’s comment insightful and quite neutral in content and tone, certainly not intended to upset anyone. As I have been interested in history since as long as I remember, I look forward to any new insights you can contribute. Please include independent secular references, because I generally don’t believe a single word religious people say in scientific discussions. History is science (or at least attempts to be), religion is child abuse leaving many adults living lives of delusion. I understand that some people will find this offensive, but it’s what I (among many others) think.

      • Dallas -  December 24, 2015 - 4:32 pm

        Nothing is true? Really? Fact: Jesus died on Friday before what is called Easter Day. Fact: He was 33 1/2 years old when he died. So back up 6 months you can find the month he was born in. October. So he wasn’t born in December. Fact.

    • Joe -  December 21, 2015 - 4:28 pm

      Tracey don’t spread ignorance! Get your facts first!
      I’m glad you question Christianity, but by your post you have a lot to learn about Christianity. Early Christians did in fact celebrate Jesus’ birth as God living among us. Wise men brought gifts and now we give gifts without the expectation of receiving a gift. St. Nicholas was a Christian Bishop in modern day Turkey who gave gifts to many people, several of the people he did not know. I have never heard that Christians stole the idea of lighting a candle in a window from a group of other people before. Because of English oppression Irish Catholics lit a candle in a window to secretly welcome a priest and a Mass which was at that time outlawed.
      Don’t spread ignorance! Get your facts first!

    • SuperSniperSal -  December 21, 2015 - 5:59 pm

      Good Day Tracey,
      You certainly have cooked up a storm. Please tell me, where did you attain your facts. Please read the message that I left for Peter, you may find it to be interesting. Hope to hear from you!
      Gods blessings to you and your family!
      Your Brother in CHRIST,

    • Anxs -  December 21, 2015 - 11:01 pm

      Also why doesn’t anyone explain so called existence of jesus who was born brown become white over all these years…

    • Neal -  December 22, 2015 - 1:05 am

      Hey girl research the definition of ” PAGANS”, then rewrite you Blog……………………………… ;)

    • Theresa -  December 22, 2015 - 3:43 am

      Tracy you are so right, all these so called christians who are celebrating christmas are totally being mislead !! christmas is a very pagan thing, good on you !

    • Lisa -  December 22, 2015 - 3:39 pm

      You seem very knowledgeable about history but seem to believe Christians have stolen everything from pagans.
      I believe further research on your part would show many similarities between most religions because world history is the same foundation upon which each religion is built.
      I wish you the best however you choose how to (or not to) worship.

    • von Hardenberg -  December 22, 2015 - 4:34 pm

      Steal is such a harsh term. It also has the connotation of denying the use of something. I believe that the Pagans are still free to use any form of celebration that originated with them. Another point might be that fixing any kind of celebration in the ancient world was difficult as most calendars were solar or lunar based. Easter is a good example of the lunar as are Samhain, Beltane, Yule, Midsummer and so on which are solar and/or seasonal . The Hebrew Calendar is lunar based so are a good number of Christian observances.

    • Absolution -  December 22, 2015 - 9:25 pm

      If you are willing to disprove God’s existence, and that the Bible is wrong. I want you to also disprove the existence of Lucifer, the King of the Earth, the Devil, the Lord of the Skies. Your arrogance is quite miffing, so please, just stop fabricating stories. Unless you will prove every single sentence in the Bible is wrong, shut you mouth and enjoy your eternity in Hell.

    • Anonymous -  December 22, 2015 - 9:58 pm

      Okay, to begin, I will state that I am Roman Catholic and not an atheist or agnostic as Cristina suggested that Tracey is or that a person must be if they speak about Christian holidays like this. Anyway:
      No one has any way of knowing when Jesus was born; however, we all can be certain he was not born on December 25, simply because the Romans did not use the Gregorian calendar. And there simply is no decisive historical evidence of any birth date for Jesus quite possibly because the Romans did not write down the date of birth on their birth records. Christmas was partly begun, in fact, as an attempt by Christians to evangelize the Pagans who had did already have a holiday around that time. That is not to say that Christmas does not have significant meaning in the Christian faiths; in truth, it does. But that does not change the fact that Christians had to convince others to convert, and Christmas was one of their methods of doing so. Anything the Christians actually “stole” [as Tracey says] from the Pagans was an attempt to evangelize (keep in mind that Christianity was one of the first major world religions to recruit converts, and this was and still is a huge part of Christianity). As for Easter, I cannot speak to whether or not the Pagans painted eggs, but I know that the concept of new life that comes with the egg is meant to represent Christ’s bringing of new life after He rises from the tomb.

      One final thing: Tracey, the tone that your comment appears to have is quite negative, you are essentially attacking Christians because they “stole” things from other peoples. While some of your points may be based on some facts, the purpose for your comment is belligerent.
      And everyone else: no one is necessarily atheistic or agnostic if they don’t follow your religion, and there is nothing wrong with it if they are one of the two because they can believe whatever they would like. That, however, does not warrant an atheist to write a hostile message to Christians.

    • Dana -  December 23, 2015 - 7:00 am

      wow, sorry for your dislike of Christians.

    • Steve T -  December 23, 2015 - 9:07 am

      Tracey. Spot on. Thank you for bringing up the origins of many of the Christian traditions. It does not devalue the meaning in Christianity, it only gives the traditions more depth.

    • Ogaga Urhie -  December 23, 2015 - 9:26 am

      I read Tracey’s arguments (and emotionally charged, intellectually lukewarm replies) and quickly became bored. Will any of you please share ACADEMIC sources to uphold your arguments?

    • Jake -  December 23, 2015 - 2:17 pm

      Actually, Tracey is correct (and I’m a Christian).

      As much as most, especially fundamentalist, Christians would like to think that all of Christianity is literal and developed completely independent of other historical events around it, that’s simply not true.

      Christianity is an amalgam of different, largely Greek and Jewish religious beliefs (with various other Pagan beliefs added later) that existed long before the birth of Christ. I tend to think of it as a continuation of universal truths that have existed for most of humanity’s existence. I’m not alone in this view; many people in several different Christian denominations believe this as well.

      It’s not an accident that there’s a large painting of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle in the Academy at Athens in St. Peter’s in the Vatican. These three Greek philosophers who lived centuries before Christ, greatly influenced Christian thinking. I’m amazed and a little frightened by how little modern Christians know about the origins of their religion.

      My apologies if these facts offend any thin skinned Christians, who have built up a shaky worldview based on misinformation. However, you should seek the truth, for it will set you free.

    • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 6:47 pm

      I don’t believe that christians stole anything. Rather, I think they decided to share a joyful holiday

    • Kari -  December 24, 2015 - 6:57 am

      Great info! I had no idea about the trees and Easter egg thing! Very interesting!

    • Gothstaff -  December 24, 2015 - 7:52 am

      The “Christians stole” The “Christians stole” The “Christians stole” The “Christians stole”

    • Dale -  December 24, 2015 - 1:41 pm

      Tracey is correct, early Christians did not celebrate Jesus’ birth, It was far from the minds of the early Christians, In fact it wasn’t until the time of Emperor Constantine, that, the Apostasy from what Jesus taught.

      Jesus’ Birthday, Regarding the date when Christmas is celebrated, the Catholic newspaper said: “The real date of Jesus’ birth, from the historical viewpoint, lies concealed beneath a veil of uncertainty as regards Roman history, the imperial census of that time and research in the subsequent centuries. . . . The date of 25 December, as is well known, was chosen by the Church of Rome in the fourth century. This date in pagan Rome was dedicated to the Sun god

      Although Christianity had already been affirmed in Rome by an Edict of Constantine, the myth of . . . the Sun god was still widespread, especially among soldiers. The above-mentioned festivities, centred on 25 December, were deeply rooted in popular tradition. This gave the Church of Rome the idea of impressing a Christian religious significance on the day by replacing the Sun god with the true Sun of Justice, Jesus Christ, choosing it as the day on which to celebrate his birth.”

      Do you find it acceptable that a religious leader would give a seemingly Christian meaning to events and symbols whose roots go back to ancient paganism? As to the proper course, the Scriptures admonish true Christians: “What fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness?”—2 Corinthians 6:14-17.

    • Davis -  December 25, 2015 - 12:28 pm

      Oh, yawn…. sick of seeing this.

    • V. -  December 25, 2015 - 1:15 pm

      Hello Tracy,
      Thank you for expressing your ideas and would like to apologize for all the fanatics jumping on you over doing so. I think as long as we remember WHAT we are celebrating (being loving towards one another), it truly doesn’t matter HOW OR WHOM we celebrate.
      You keep on doing your pagan thing, girl. It truly is all good.
      I will continue to celebrate Christmas for that is how I choose to do it. Does not make me better or worse, simply a bit different from what you do.
      So, have a great holiday and remember, not all who WONDER are lost! (In reply to earlier comment that you are indeed, lost.)
      Sending good vibes your way, Ms. V.

    • Hughert -  December 26, 2015 - 1:12 am

      Actually it was the Catholics, not the Christians.

      Catholicism is really just a heretical paganization of Christianity onto a counterfeit religion. The only reason why Catholic heresies have become considered “standard” “Christian” beliefs is because the the “Holy Roman Empire” ruled by the sword for centuries, killing & persecuting anyone who dared to disagree with their heresies & speak the truth about real Christianity.

      Nuns…holy women serving God, right? No, they are just the pagan Vestal Virgins re-made to give heresy the mask of holiness.
      Purgatory…God granting a post-death chance for Heaven, right? No, it’s just pagan Erebus re-made to put money in the priest’s pockets.

      Tracey you are partly right, much of the Catholics’ “christianization” was to get converts…”oh, you can join us without really giving up your heathen religion, well just change the name of your deity to a saint’s name…”, so they said “you have this winter celebration, we’ll keep the celebration, but change the name to say it’s about Jesus instead of “. The entire idea behind this was to get pagan converts by saying “you don’t really have to change your beliefs, just give them new names”, getting “conversions” without any real belief in Christ or true Christian doctrines. This false conversion and their liberal use of violence, is what made the Catholic church so large & powerful that Catholicism began to replace true Christianity, & even today the average person assumes that whatever Catholics believe is from God, & they have no idea how adulterated & blasphemic Catholicism really is.

      But not everything is “stolen” from the pagans (I doubt that “pagans” can be credited as “inventing” giving presents, giving gifts to one another is a universal human custom, just the occasions for gifts are different from culture to culture. God Himself gave His Son as a gift to mankind, so really gifts were invented by God), nor is everything that was done by pagans bad or “pagan” in nature, just because it was done by pagans. Pagans ate food, does that mean eating is “pagan”? No, eating is something all people do. Pagans had feasts, are feasts “pagan”? No, the Jews had feasts too, they were not pagans, their feasts were religious occasions ordained by God. If a Christian has a feast, what does that make him/her? Well, having feasts is something that is done by many cultures, it’s a human trait to celebrate an occasion with food. A feast in itself isn’t Pagan, Jewish, Christian, secular, etc, but the occasion it’s celebrating is what defines it as such.
      Also I don’t see how the “Christians” i.e. Catholics could have “stolen” Santa Claus since the real “Santa Claus”, the historical man St Nicholas, was a Catholic Bishop to begin with.
      And “Easter” is from “Ēostre” a pagan fertility goddess, her festival was naturally held in the spring when the land’s fertility begins anew, you are correct about the eggs, but rabbits aren’t there for their cuteness, but because they ahem “breed like rabbits”, they are simply fertility symbols like the eggs. How they got to a rabbit laying eggs is much more convoluted. The changing of the pagan Eostre festival to the “christian” Easter is simply because the pagan festival already coincided with the Jewish Passover feast & the Bible tells us clearly that Jesus’ crucifixion occurred shortly after Passover.
      So the Catholics had a ripe opportunity to paganize the legitimate celebration of Christ’s resurrection, into a pseudo-christian counterfeit.

    • Avery -  December 28, 2015 - 4:22 pm

      So much effort to disprove and debate the existence of the Savior Jesus Christ while losing focus on the men who surrounded him. All these men (apostles) were martyred for their faith going to their death for not only what they heard or saw but what they believed. Even if you don’t believe in Jesus what would you fight to death for? What would you hold true and not forsake even if it cost you life and limb? After the death of Christ and seeing Him rise in the flesh and ascend into heaven, these apostles knew that He was the only way to get to the Father not because of what another human being told them but because they experienced the Word (John 1:1-4) become flesh dwelling among them (John 1:14). It’s interesting that no one is debating the existence of King Herod or other Roman emperors of the far distant past but the issue has always been and will continue to be the existence of God. There exists a human fleshly desire to defy authority in this case it is with the Almighty Creator. Even time is measured by His existence “BC” and “AD” which this generation is trying to erase as their forefathers have been trying to do since the beginning of time. But if you take a moment and ask yourself the question “What if you’re wrong about Jesus not existing?” I’m sure you’ve been wrong in many things in your life time. But what if Jesus did exist like the bible tells us so? And what if you were to repent and turn away from your defiance of God? What do you have to lose? Versus what if you are right and there is no God. Consider the eternal consequences of damnation for eternity if God does exist. He is a loving God that is righteous, holy and just-and he HATES rebellious sin.

    • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 6:35 pm

      Easter is the eggs are the sign of fertility and bunnie were used as a fast producer of bunnies. Its about the belief of orges.

    • AmyRenee -  December 30, 2015 - 3:23 pm

      Thank you for sharing this truth–it is one that is far too often covered up and ignored.
      I think it’s also important to note the connection of Christmas to the Pagan god of the sun, Tammuz (seen as the reincarnation of Nimrod, the founder of Paganism and the initial sun god). Tammuz’s birthday is on December 25th.
      Birthdays are indeed a Pagan celebration. Pagans and occultists believe their birthday is the day Lucifer gave them light and thus, it is something to be celebrated.
      When Pagans merged their holidays with Christian holidays, they found it a convenient excuse to say they were worshipping the Son of God because they were already worshipping the “sun god” Nimrod/Tammuz.
      The pine tree, Christmas wreath, holly, and mistletoe are symbols of fertility and reincarnation, a significant motif throughout Paganism. Tammuz was a stag god, and therefore we have stags, or reindeer, leading Santa’s sleigh. There are eight of them because eight is a symbol for infinity, which is representative of reincarnation.

      Easter is the celebration of Nimrod’s mother, Semiramis, who is the goddess of spring and fertility in Paganism and who is called the goddess Easter in her reincarnated form. The bunnies are significant because they are a very quickly reproducing animal, and therefore represent the concept of fertility and reincarnation. The colored eggs are significant in Easter because according to Pagan legend, the day after Semiramis died, she was reincarnated and fell from the sky in a giant egg (an Easter egg) into the river and washed up in wicker reeds (what we use to make Easter baskets). The people of Babylon scurried to find her egg because they were to receive a special blessing if they were first to find it. This is where the Easter egg hunt comes from.

      The Bible mentions Nimrod in Genesis 10:8. He is a descendant of Noah and a mighty hunter of Babylon “before the Lord.”

      In the book of Luke we see that Jesus Christ was indeed not born on the 25th of December because of the timing of John’s birth as well as the fact that the shepherds are still out in the fields tending to their flocks. It is a well known historical fact that if it were any later than September, it would have been too cold and the shepherds would have already brought their flocks inside to tend to them.
      Here is a great article that goes in depth with regard to the timing of John’s birth and how we can derive the timing of Jesus’ birth from it!


      God bless you!

  39. Tracey -  December 13, 2015 - 12:53 am

    Christians celebrate the Nativity, or the birth of the alleged Jesus every December 25. Contrary to belief, there exists no evidence for a Jesus born on a December. Not a single shred of Biblical text declares this date, nor gives a hint of a winter season birth for a Jesus “the Christ.” In fact, there occurs not a tad of evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus!

    The Christmas that we celebrate today derived from pre-Christian Germanic, Roman, and Celtic people who celebrated the winter solstice. The use of holly, mistletoe, yule logs, wassail bowls, and decorating a tree derived from early pagan customs. Many European countries still call this celebration “Yule-tide” meaning “wheel time,” the cycles of time. None of these derive from Christian origin.

    The Persian Mithras cult spread during the 3rd and 4th centuries B.C.E. and predates Christian ceremonies and rites such as: baptism, communion wafer, and Sunday rest. On December 25, the sacrifice of a bull celebrated the Sol invictus (the invincible sun) and signaled the birth of a young sun god who sprang from a rock or a cave in the form of a newborn infant.

    The Romans celebrated the Winter Solstice on December 25th as a renewing of the sun every year. Also the Romans celebrated the festival of the Saturnalia from December 17th to the 24th to honor Saturn, the god of grain and agriculture. The festival consisted of a period of goodwill, devoted to visiting friends and the giving of gifts.

    At the beginning of the first century, Christianity emerged as a fledgling religion but not until the 4th century did Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus. The motive behind the introduction of this celebration aimed at subverting the practice of pagan rituals such as Mithra and Saturnalia. Pope Liberius introduced the Nativity on December 25th 354 C.E.. By the 5th century, the event became so customary that it began to mark the beginning of the ceremonial year.

    Today, we still celebrate with ornaments on trees, mistletoe and giving gifts, none of which has anything to do with Christian mythology. So instead of celebrating the Christian deception, why not opt for the earlier non-god celebration of the Winter Solstice? After all, it represents an actual event as the planet earth orbits about the sun. The universe presents us with far more magnificent events than the superstitious religionists have ever dreamt up.

    • Mike -  December 14, 2015 - 11:18 am

      What evidence are you looking for to prove that there was a historical Jesus? What evidence did you find to prove a historical Mohamed or Genghis Khan or Alexander or any other ancient historical figure? The historical Jesus is also attested in extra biblical and historical sources. Again, you are either biased or not willing to apply the same standards to evaluating the existence of other historical figures as with Jesus

      • Emily -  December 21, 2015 - 1:36 pm

        Exactly! Thank you, Mike.

        • Tim -  December 23, 2015 - 1:28 pm

          Historical evidence would be any source other than the bible. One would have expected a single Roman to have written about Jesus if he had existed.

          Philo of Alexandria was born: 25 BCE in Alexandria, Egypt. He died: 47-50 CE. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Jesus is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Jesus’ miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. Philo spent time in Jerusalem where he had intimate connections with the royal house of Judaea. One of Alexander’s sons (and Philo’s nephews, Marcus) was married to Berenice, daughter of Herod Agrippa, tetrarch of Galilee and Peraea, 39-40. After the exile of Herod Antipas – villain of the Jesus saga – Marcus ruled as King of the Jews, 41-44 AD. But nothing from Philo on Jesus, the other ‘King of the Jews’.

          Philo was there when Jesus made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with an earthquake, daytime darkness, and resurrection of the dead ‘saints’ took place and when Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days. He was there when Jesus ascended into heaven. About thirty manuscripts and at least 850,000 words by Philo are extant. It was Philo who developed the doctrine of the Logos, or Word, and although Jesus, this Word incarnate, was walking around giving speeches and performing miracles, Philo wrote not one word about him or any of this.

          As for your question about proof Mohammed existed. His neighbours in Byzantine Syria got to hear of him within two years of his death at the latest; a Greek text written during the Arab invasion of Syria between 632 and 634 mentions that “a false prophet has appeared among the Saracens” and dismisses him as an impostor on the ground that prophets do not come “with sword and chariot”. It thus conveys the impression that he was actually leading the invasions.

          There are plenty of Greek texts about Alexander. I haven’t looked into Gengis Khan, but I think you get the point.

        • Mary -  December 23, 2015 - 3:56 pm

          WTG Mike. Good answer for that poor lost soul. From what I understand the Jews believe that Jesus lived, they just don’t believe He was the Messiah.

      • Ogaga Urhie -  December 23, 2015 - 9:12 am

        I believe we will get to other historical figures in their due time. Stay focused!: your arguments are centered about the word X-mas, a denotation for Christmas, a Christian holiday

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:53 pm

        Grow up man!

      • Shari -  December 24, 2015 - 8:11 pm

        Well said, Mike!

      • Dan -  December 28, 2015 - 2:49 pm

        True that.

        What evidence is there to believe that Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, or Rodney Dangerfield ever actually existed? The impact that Jesus has had on mankind is far greater than that of any other individual before or after him. John Wayne (Marion Robert Morrison) is known around the globe but his impact on society is miniscule in comparison to the impact of Jesus Christ’s teachings. Most Muslims see Jesus as a Prophet only exceeded by Muhammad! Even many Jews accept the historicity of Jesus.

        Most Americans can only believe in the existence of Barack Obama from images they see on the TV, Internet or newspapers. That acceptance COULD be described as CREDULITY \ since all those media could be falsified. And yet one would come CLOSER to the likelihood of being correct in denying Obama’s existence than that of Jesus.

        Tracey is correct!

    • David Holloway -  December 15, 2015 - 1:12 am

      Historical Jesus is recorded in the works of Flavius Josephus, a Jew working with the Romans

      • WayneMV -  December 15, 2015 - 6:00 pm

        A great many erudite scholars are convinced that both references to Jesus in Josephus are forgeries.

      • Ian -  December 21, 2015 - 5:35 am

        There is nothing in the works pf Josephus that is independently accepted as relating to the man referred to as ‘Jesus Christ’, and certainly not Jesus of Nazareth. Nazareth did not exist until after Constantine became Roman Emperor in the year 306 CE.

        • Dallas -  December 24, 2015 - 4:44 pm

          Are you sure? Archaeological excavations have confirmed that the city was only a small agricultural village during the Hellenistic and Roman periods. I think the Hellenistic period is long before Constantine.

        • Dani Renan -  December 30, 2015 - 4:27 pm

          Sorry, wrong. During the repaving of the area around the Church of the Annunciation an early first century house was found. Settlement in the basin goes back about 9000 ybp (Neolithic B), and had a settlement (village from the Middle Bronze through the Iron Age. It was apparently destroyed and depopulated in 722, during the Assyrian conquest, i.e., no archaeological evidence found after this period, until the early Roman period.

    • Una -  December 17, 2015 - 3:21 pm

      . . . “why not opt for the earlier non-god celebration of the Winter Solstice?”

      Because when you confuse the map for the territory, you don’t even realize there is a real territory to begin with which the map only represents symbolicly. The existance of the map is self evident that there is a different dimension of territory and a destination in that dimension.

      • Mvn -  December 25, 2015 - 8:48 am

        Are you a General Sematician? I just finished a course of Speech and Human behavior. I truly enjoyed it.

      • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 11:07 pm

        Forgive me but I don’t understand. How does your metaphor relate to celebrating the turn of the Earth?

    • Nd -  December 18, 2015 - 5:01 am

      No historical Jesus? and yet He works wonders presently and is changing lives daily. Hmm! At the mention of His name, every knee bows. Even today as we speak, many knees are still bowing at the mention of His name. No historical Jesus? Huh?

      • Chuck -  December 22, 2015 - 11:22 am

        works wonders? every knee bows? Come back to earth.

      • Debbie -  December 23, 2015 - 12:20 pm

        People would rather tell themselves that nothing created everything and that believing in God is foolish because they do not want to “bow the knee” to anyone. They want to live as they see fit and not be told how to live morally. So, people can try to convince Tracey all day long that Jesus is real, but until she realizes that she has sinned against a holy God and needs to repent to escape hell, the debating will continue.

      • Redman Snow -  December 23, 2015 - 3:03 pm

        My knee sure doesn’t bow

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:50 pm

        Your invisible sky daddy doesn’t exist either. Grow up!

      • Matt -  December 24, 2015 - 7:09 am

        A dinosaur ate my Jesus fish. You’re all brainwashed whether you believe or don’t believe. Live your life your way and stop arguing what is real or not. That’s the problem with the world. Everyone trying to force their beliefs, values, convictions in others. Who cares?!!

      • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 11:08 pm

        You are speaking of a symbolic Jesus. You are speaking of the idea of Jesus that lives in peoples minds. The historical Jesus is the physical man that walked the Earth and lived on this planet.

      • Ramona -  December 28, 2015 - 2:51 pm

        With respect, I need to point out a flaw in your generalization. My knee is not currently bowed. I suspect that’s true of many other people as well, even when readng your mention of Jesus’ name. Poetic metaphors can be rewarding, but shouldn’t be taken literally.

    • stuart -  December 18, 2015 - 10:28 am

      You say ‘alleged’, there’s no alleged about it, Jesus was a real person. He was born approximately 2015 (No one is sure as there are no records)
      He started his ministry aged about 30. They don’t know exactly when this was but between AD27-AD29. to AD30-AD36.
      As there are no records of the exact time he started it’s difficult to pin it down exactly.
      But, there are plenty of records of Jesus spreading his words across the middle east. Some of the best are made by the Romans that governed the province at that time.
      There is absolutely no dispute by anyone that the man did exist, and that he preached the word of god.
      But was he the son of god? That’s for people to either have faith in or not.People will always debate this until concrete evidence is put in front of them.

      • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 7:04 am

        Born in 2015. So young!

      • Tim -  December 23, 2015 - 1:30 pm

        Please cite the Roman records you mention.

      • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 6:54 pm

        actually your first sentence is not true. Jesus was100% human and 100% god. The bible tells us to love all no mater what their religion, there for no mater what all of you believe, god and jesus loves us all

    • Kate White -  December 20, 2015 - 6:56 am

      Tracey, thank you for your info. I found the dictionary.com piece not only utterly silly but inappropriate for the site. Why are we getting a lesson in religion from a dictionary?

      • Zack -  December 22, 2015 - 8:15 am

        Amen! People always try and find a way to justify paganism.

      • Josh -  December 24, 2015 - 11:14 pm

        This is a lesson in the origin of a word….sounds right up a dictionary websites’s alley. It’s a lesson to some Christians who think it is insulting to write Xmas so idk why you’re all huffed up when it is helping the religious and secular come together

    • JoeyLaBs -  December 21, 2015 - 6:00 am

      The bible is actually considered a historical text, Detective Tracey.

      • andrew -  December 22, 2015 - 4:47 am

        So, if the Bible is an historical text, then Adam and Eve were the first 2 people and had 2 sons (no girls) and then what happened? Where did the rest of the population come from?

      • Redman Snow -  December 23, 2015 - 3:04 pm

        No, the bible is Mythology

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:56 pm


      • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 11:10 pm

        I’m sorry if I offend you, but I beg to differ. The Bible has been edited and revised and added to and taken from so many times that it is (at least in my view) as unreliable as the end product of a game of Chinese Whispers.

      • Karin -  December 28, 2015 - 11:05 am

        Sorry, but the only folks that view the bible as actual historical text are those that subscribe to the beliefs it contains. There are too many contradictions and inaccuracies to ever consider this a true historical text.

    • sprat -  December 21, 2015 - 9:33 am

      Early Christians were persecuted for hundreds of years…a detail you conveniently don’t list here. They had to worship “underground” in catacombs. There is evidence of the celebration of Christ’s birth well before 354CE.

      Based on what I’ve read here from you, you seem to be one of those people who chooses to regurgitate useless information instead of fact finding for yourself.

      • Redman Snow -  December 23, 2015 - 3:05 pm

        No, they are the facts, everything else is myth and magic

      • Johny -  December 24, 2015 - 6:54 am

        Poor Christians, like they never persecuted anyone. Have you heard of the Inquisition? How many witches were burnt at the cross because of Christianity, or “heretics” imprisoned for speaking the facts or are you just regurgitating useless information instead of fact finding for yourself?

    • Guest -  December 21, 2015 - 11:02 am

      Nobody is forcing you to be Christian but don’t waste your time putting Christianity down to make yourself feel better. Enjoy Christmas for what it means in your heart but don’t ruin your Christmas spirit with so much hatred. You may be going through tough times so I’ll pray for you! Although you may not like it, know that no matter what you believe it is good to treat each other nicely and I respect your views. Just in the future, keep them to yourself rather than spew them randomly. As much respect that atheist demand for themselves, they sure don’t give the same courtesy to those of faith. Have a Merry Christmas and GOD BLESS!!!!!

      • Chuck -  December 22, 2015 - 11:27 am

        Nobody is forcing you to be Christian… Hmm, interesting comment. Which “holidays” do we observe in the US, even though we certainly are not officially a “Christian nation”? Which deities are represented on our currency? Which deities are mentioned (by most) in our nation’s Pledge of Allegiance? You’re right, no one is actually dragging you off to church and holding your head under water until you accept JC as your savior. They stop just short of that.

      • Redman Snow -  December 23, 2015 - 3:07 pm

        Christianity has a long and bloody history of not respecting other peoples belief

      • Johny -  December 24, 2015 - 6:46 am

        No one is putting Christianity down to make themselves feel better, people who have read your christian books and other meaningful (Bible included especially the Proverbs) books are just giving you the truth, but you would rather live a comfortable lie rather than an uncomfortable truth. It’s typical of you religious, delusional fanatics to scold people that are actually trying to help you as being full of hatred and make them seem as they are crazy and going through tough times, seeing as you are the ones who need a crutch like Jesus to get you through your though times. The reason “atheists” don’t respect religion is because we follow the scientific method and not fantasy method. I will pray also for you christian (without the capital letter) and religious sheep and ask the Universe to shine some light upon you. But thinking again, when that light shines upon you, you will probably think it’s Jesus. Jesus!!

      • Another guest -  December 30, 2015 - 7:50 am

        Well said Guest! The TRUTH is that Christ Jesus EXISTS and weather Tracy or anyone else believes it or not does not change the TRUTH, so therefore their belief is not important! A lion is a lion even if nobody believes it….they will believe it if they suddenly find themselves in the mouth of the lion – that is when their belief will not count because it comes too late! Jesus is so important that our very existence depends on Him – that is why at his birth the history restarted from 0 – ANNO DOMINI!

    • Raul -  December 21, 2015 - 2:26 pm

      Thanks for you explanation, you’re right, don’t pay attention to those fundamentalist.

    • David thompson -  December 22, 2015 - 5:09 am

      So you’re going to be one of THOSE atheists, eh? There’s evidence of Jesus, just as believable as historical accounts of other historical figures. There’s at least sources that can signify that the stories of Jesus were not completely fiction.

    • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 5:41 pm

      Actually there is a couple peices of evience that recognize he was here. But there is nothing indicating his race. I agree with you Tracey that there is no evidence he was born in december. And the whole Christianity is a misconception For most people. Jesus didn’t preach religion or Christianity, he preached the way of life. Christmas is a pagan holiday. It has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus. That’s just a cover up so people can buy gifts, go to church, and show how much money they have. And did you notice as soon as Christmas is over nobody wants to give anymore. People are fake and have no real regard for you. And for the people who call themselves christians Do you think Going to church on Sunday and every church event, and reading your bible is going to get you into Heaven. No you have to do the work. If you look back centuries in the name God and Christianity. People have murdered killed thinking they are doing God’s work. And Miss Christina I think you need a history lesson to. You call yourself a Christian your taking on the responsibility of saving souls. Are you? Did you know every time you say “I am a christian” your saying your apart of what the original Christians did. And Tracey how does your belief system work. Do you have faith or beleive in anything? If you don’t you need to sit down and think about whats happened in your life to make you Hostile to the belief a God. What people don’t know is that a lot of these so called “Holidays” are pagan. Christmas, Halloween, Easter,Thanksgiving, Valentines day, Memorial day. Halloween is an evil Holiday Did you know the carving of the pumpkins is a form of demon worship look it up. Easter is SUPPOSED to be about Jesus. Where did the bunny come from. Thanksgiving was the day the pilgrims tricked the Native Americans and ate them. Valentines day has massacres in black and white. Memorial Day. What the hay is that even supposed to be about. YOU DON’T EVEN NEED a Dinomanation as long as you beleive. So before you guys start to point fingers at who’s wrong and who’s right read your History.

    • Harrison -  December 23, 2015 - 6:33 am

      Traditions of men. Probably best to quit bowing to trees, etc.

    • Scott -  December 23, 2015 - 6:58 am

      Thanks for the insight Tracey. I believe in doing right and live to be productive and contribute to the betterment of humanity. Religion breed too much hate , distrust and bigotry. I’m sure some one named Jesus lived, and probably had followers and did nice things for people and stood up for what he believed to be right… before him some one had written books that were made into a bible that were good rules to live by. I don’t disagree with religion, I do disagree, with bigots, those that are attacking what you believe is true.

    • The voice in the wilderness -  December 23, 2015 - 2:15 pm

      Tracy Jesus love you.

    • Jake -  December 23, 2015 - 2:21 pm

      Actually, Tracey is correct (and I’m a Christian).

      As much as most, especially fundamentalist, Christians would like to think that all of Christianity is literal and developed completely independent of other historical events around it, that’s simply not true.

      Christianity is an amalgam of different, largely Greek and Jewish religious beliefs (with various other Pagan beliefs added later) that existed long before the birth of Christ. I tend to think of it as a continuation of universal truths that have existed for most of humanity’s existence. I’m not alone in this view; many people in several different Christian denominations believe this as well.

      It’s not an accident that there’s a large painting of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle in the Academy at Athens in St. Peter’s in the Vatican. These three Greek philosophers who lived centuries before Christ, greatly influenced Christian thinking. I’m amazed and a little frightened by how little modern Christians know about the origins of their religion.

      My apologies if these facts offend any thin skinned Christians, who have built up a shaky worldview based on misinformation. However, you should seek the truth, for it will set you free.

    • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:51 pm

      The indoctrinated don’t deal in facts. You could put evey shred of evidence up here and they will continue to stomp their feet. The fact that an educated human being in 2015 can still believe in such ridiculous fairytales says it all. They don’t value evidence but if I told one of them their spouse was cheating on them. They would demand it. Facts scare Christians because it questions their entire existence.

    • Johny -  December 24, 2015 - 6:46 am

      You’re awesome Tracey.

    • Lara -  December 24, 2015 - 4:25 pm

      The ‘alleged’ Jesus??? Jesus wasn’t alleged!

    • KK -  December 25, 2015 - 2:46 am

      Good clear deduction—-I agree.

    • Ashley -  December 25, 2015 - 4:01 am

      Tracy *standing ovation* finally someone who actually studied real history!

    • Guy Granger -  December 25, 2015 - 8:40 am

      Touche Tracey! could not have said it better myself. I live in the US and I thank goodness that our founding fathers had the sense to leave their religions at the door when they hammered out the Constitution. The very fact that we can have this type of conversation is a testament to their wisdom!

    • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 11:04 pm

      There was evidence that Christ was a legitimate person, apart from the Bible. I’m afraid I cannot come up with specifics but I know there is evidence.
      Another name for Christmas is Yule, yes? This name was originally Pagan.
      Saturn is the Roman equivalent of Kronos, titan of time. Zeus’s father, the one that swallowed his children. Forgive me if I’m wrong.
      I think Tracey’s argument deserves thunderous applause.

    • Hughert -  December 26, 2015 - 1:28 am

      See? This is the whole point of Catholicism.
      1 take a pagan rite
      2 say it’s about Jesus
      3 convince the world that the man-made tradition is from God
      4 people follow the tradition blindly for centuries
      5 some people realize the tradition is really a human contrivance
      6 instead of realizing that only that contrived tradition is false, they assume everything associated with God is false.
      7 they reject God & Christianity altogether
      8 they die & go to Hell
      9 Satan celebrates his success in damning another soul to Hell

      The “motive behind the introduction of this celebration” was not “subverting the practice of pagan rituals”, it was the subversion of true Christianity.

    • Pam -  December 26, 2015 - 5:49 am

      Tracy, you are correct. Just thought maybe you might like to hear that. Christ was probably born on the feast of Trumpets or the day the Jewish faith calls rosh hashana. The clues in the bible point to this and it makes sense because traditionally it’s believed it’s probably the day Adam was created. Christ, being known as the second Adam and the cool way God does things throughout history, it sort of makes sense.

    • Lady Di -  December 26, 2015 - 1:52 pm

      I totally agrree with this statement. People love to put forth their opinion witch , of couarse the have their right to beliefs! It takes many hours of studying all areas of BC cultures and rituals to see just how closely the Church, greed and religion took over to plunder, murder and wipe out tribal societies that did not succumb to ideology.What a coincidink…still happens today LMFAO!

    • Phisch -  December 27, 2015 - 1:20 pm

      This is how I see it:

      Selecting December 25th for the birthday of Jesus was a matter of expedience for the church to facilitate the conversion of pagans to Christianity in the Roman Empire, since many pagan gods were born at the winter solstice. After adopting a number of pagan ideas, the Catholic Church emerged 300 years later as a clear aberration of Jesus’ teaching. Catholicism was rejected by Martin Luther 1500 years later, but he retained the basic dogma for some reason, as if that couldn’t possibly be an invention also to secure the power of the Church. Does anyone really think the early expression of Christianity in the book of Acts is what emerged 300 years later in the form of Catholicism?

      Why is a church even necessary? Didn’t Jesus criticized the organized religion of his day? He said the Kingdom of Heaven was within and that WE were “one with the Father” just like him. If being “one with the Father” meant Jesus is God, then what does it mean that we too are “one with the Father?” If there is nothing but God in the universe, then it makes sense that WE TOO ARE GOD in human form. And what if this were the actual the message of Jesus? After all, his knowledge exceeded the primitive ideas of Judaism. And what if the Church, by retaining the Old Testament, created a doctrine that maintained the ancient concept of the separation of God and human beings in order to establish its authority over them. Jesus didn’t tell people to worship him, after all; he taught them how to be. The Church, on the other hand, taught people to conform to its doctrine, and it gained a whole lot of wealth and power in the process, and left a terrible history.

      Jesus did away with the old, right? Yet the Church retained the Old Testament to complete its doctrine. The god of the OT, Yahweh, was a stern character indeed. He was given to fits of rage and jealousy and was quite willing to exterminate his creation for ignoring his commands. He is the perfect alternative to the kindness of Jesus when something needs to be done that Jesus wouldn’t approve of. Want slaves? Need to eradicate the savages? Hate homosexuals? Angered by heretics and witches? Don’t bother Jesus, call Jehovah. He was the obvious choice for keeping the faithful in line too. If you screw up, it’s off to hell you go . . . and you know that old Yahweh will do it too, ’cause he already drowned everyone on earth but one family and ordered the genocide of a few tribal groups so he could play favorites.

      Believe whatever you want. What matters is that the beliefs of all three Abrahamic religions are threatening the world today. The ancients believed that the gods lording over them were numerous and humanlike. The primitive Israelites traded the many gods for a single almighty humanoid god who was also OUT THERE. Then Jesus came along and corrected their mistake, telling us that the God Force was, in fact, IN HERE. But the church fathers wouldn’t have it and defined God as being UP THERE in heaven waiting for the righteous to come. Mohammed chose a popular Arabian god (also OUT THERE) called Allah, claiming that he too was the god of Abraham.

      According to Israelite mythology, Yahweh gave them the “promised land.” Christian mythology claims the Jews had to repossess it before Jesus could return. Together, the two mythologies established the modern Sate of Israel and set the Mideast on a dangerous course. Muslim and Christian mythologies expect an apocalypse, which Christians think will signal the return of Christ and their convenient disappearance as all hell breaks loose. Lucky them. So here we are, folks, on the brink of WWIII thanks to three ancient mythological fantasies.

      Now, I don’t believe in Satan, but assuming the devil has all the power attributed to him, and he will appear as “an angel of light” to deceive people, I’d say he’s done a great job of it, since the faithful keep looking to an imaginary sky god OUT THERE instead of within themselves as Jesus taught. The question is, how far will the modern pagans go before they renounce mythology and do something sensible to turn this thing around?

      Ah, the power of myth.

    • Gerald Banks -  December 29, 2015 - 12:16 pm

      You are absolutely correct. I tried explaining to a friend that there is much for empirical evidence for Pilate than Jesus. LOL

    • Daniel -  December 29, 2015 - 12:45 pm

      I suggest you watch “Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas. It is a great movie showing how Christmas doesn’t have anything to do with other pagan holidays. It explains why Christians use a Christmas tree, why they give gifts, and why they celebrate during the winter solstice. Thank for your time and bless your heart.

    • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 6:38 pm

      many Christians think of the date of Dec 25 as the day Jesus was conceived. and was born on Sept 29. using the time of the year and when taxes were paid.

  40. Tracey -  December 13, 2015 - 12:51 am

    Jesus and all the events of his life were copied from numerous Pagan stories. The timing, significance and manner of his death, resurrection and birth were taken from the gods Attis, Orpheus, Heracles, Mithra and Dionysus. Even his titles, such as “the Lamb of God” were taken from previous material. All of his miracles were common tricks of Pagans before his time as well. Attis was crucified 200 years before Jesus supposedly was.

    Virgin birth
    Pagan sun gods and harvest gods were traditionally born of virgins, often a virgin temple priestess…

    Many different ancient cultures used “Mary” or a derivative of that name is the name of their goddess who bore god. This was also the ritual name of the temple harlots of the time who would have sex with those who made offerings to the temple in exchange for a symbolic union with the goddess, whom they were said to represent, just as the priest is the direct representative of God in Christian cosmology. All temple priestesses were considered to be “virgins” despite their many sex partners because the laity were not having sex with the woman, but rather with the Goddess.

    No one really knows when Jesus was born, possibly because he was not, so the Catholics, in a bid to convert Pagans, set the date of his birth on the Winter Solstice, which is the day when sun gods of many pre-Christian cultures were said to have been born as it is the shortest day of the year and thus signifies light overcoming dark. The tree and mistletoe are also of Pagan origin.

    The Cross and the Fish
    The cross, other than a symbol of torture, is a symbol of the lingam, or phallus. The Christian cross differs significantly from the Egyptian cross of life which also includes the yoni, the feminine principle. The fish, also a yoni symbol, was originally a symbol of the goddess as well.

    Easter was named for the Saxon Goddess Eostre. The Easter Bunny and the eggs left for good children are German Pagan myths. The image of the god buried in his tomb rising to live again on Easter is a Pagan one. This day marked spring and, therefore, rebirth.

    Wine has been used as a symbol for divine blood in many pre-Christian cultures. For instance, worshippers of Dionysus drank it in communion, but Jews, like Jesus and his followers, were strongly opposed to such rituals. Pagans also used wine to symbolize the blood of the goddess, from which all life was nourished. Followers of Osiris ate bread used to symbolize his flesh.

    Early Christians scorned the Jewish tradition of marriage which they inherited for being too Pagan and based on sexual union, which they saw as the most heinous of acts. Paul even suggests that he may have suffered self-inflicted castration; when someone asked if he was circumcised, he commented that the question did not apply to him. Marriage was added later on to help convert Pagans.

    Valentine’s Day
    Originally called, Lupercalia, this was a day when each person put their name into a drawing and the person who drew their name became their sexual partner for the day. The pieces of paper have been tamed down to be notes of love. Saint Valentine himself was invented in order to give a Christian meaning to the holiday.

    The Trinity
    Pre-Christian Pagans also had a trinity; it was the Triple Goddess: Maiden, Mother and Crone. It represented all stages of the life cycle. The Fates were one version of this.

    Note: Even the “Golden Rule” was ripped off, though from Buddhism rather than Pagansim. It makes one wonder what would be left if all of these things were stripped away!

    • Mike -  December 14, 2015 - 11:08 am

      Tracy, your comments are far from accurate. I’m sure you could find similarities between practices of un-reached tribes in Brazil and in New Guinea. Did one copy from another?

      If you have read the Bible, you would know about the sacrificial system and why Jesus instituted communion. Jesus never forbade marriage neither did Paul. Have you ever read Pauls teaching on Marriage? Do you know Paul said that forbidding marriage is the doctrine of demons? Read the bible to get the facts. A google search or someone else’s word will not give you the right picture.

      Yes Christmas was a pagan festival and Easter – the name and some of the festivities are pagan in origin. However, look at it this way – pagans who were converted no longer needed to worship the Sun and substituted the sun with the SON.

      • Nd -  December 17, 2015 - 9:24 pm

        Mike, don’t struggle with it. For we know that the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, because they are spirituality discerned.

        • Johny -  December 24, 2015 - 7:09 am

          Exactly and you are not a natural man, you are an enlightened creature who has accepted Jesus and is going to heaven when you die. You are probably also born of a virgin, which happens quite often in mammals, there is proof because that is how Jesus was born! You have been saved through his Grace. Hallelujah brother!!!!

        • josy or your boldness and truthfulness of speaking that verse { -  December 26, 2015 - 11:07 am

          Thank you and God bless you for proclaiming the true and good news ! { 2nd corin..2 : 14. Jesus is alive !!!!

      • Kami Alam -  December 21, 2015 - 3:22 am

        Dear Mike I have read Bible and also know what you have pointed above. But I am sorry just by quoting one piece of Paul is not what the issue is. Yes there are many pieces of Bible that are true but I with due respect wanna add to your knowledge that at the same time Bible carries a lot of concoction, alteration and errors that fails Bible to be the pure word of Jesus. And fully agree with Tracy as that is not myth but reality.

        You said that Pagans who reverted no longer needed to worship sun but son so that is even worse coz Jesus never said to worship him or called him son of God as poor Christians have understood neither did he ever claim divinity.

        • LeAnne -  December 22, 2015 - 9:11 am

          He said I am

        • Absolution -  December 22, 2015 - 9:20 pm

          Hi Kami! I love your curiosity and wanting to know more. I am here to point out your last sentence is…well… mistaken. You might want to take a look at Luke 22:70!!! <3 Good night… :D

      • Theresa -  December 22, 2015 - 3:46 am

        Tracy is so Right !

      • patrice -  December 22, 2015 - 8:03 pm

        Mike, just ignore her. She has a great organized outline, but it is rubbish beyond words and not worthy of continuing messaging with her.

      • Redman Snow -  December 23, 2015 - 3:10 pm

        Any similarities between tribes in Brazil and New Guinea are superficial at most. This point has no bases what so ever

    • Mike -  December 14, 2015 - 11:13 am

      Have you seen the lingam? It no way resembles the cross. If you still say it does, then the swastika, the or any other religious symbol could resemble it as well

      • Hughert -  December 26, 2015 - 1:48 am

        Actually the shape of the cross comes from tau, a letter of the Greek alphabet. The Romans took the letter into their alphabet. So tau is in all ways exactly like the modern letter “T t”, in both form & meaning.
        So how did tau become “the cross”? Well some Roman looked at the letter and said, “hey, we could make a pole shaped like that, and hang people on it & torture them to death”. So they called the new execution method “crucifixion” from the root “crux” meaning cross, since the two pieces cross each other perpendicularly.
        The original symbol was simply a letter representing a phoneme. Why is tau shaped like that? Well why is any letter shaped the way it is? O is understandable enough, when you say the O sound your mouth makes the O shape. But why is A shaped like A, or B shaped like B? Well they had to have a distinct shape for each phoneme, so they just made up each letter & said “this means this sound, that means that sound”.
        All symbols inherently mean nothing, people assign meanings to the shapes to communicate with each other, and that is written language.

    • A Christian -  December 15, 2015 - 8:55 am

      I don’t have time to go into all these things right now, so maybe I can do so over time. I’ll just start with the first one.

      Jesus: I find it interesting that you use the examples of ancient idol’s histories and their similarities to Christ’s, specifically “the timing, significance and manner of his death, resurrection and birth”. First of all, the timing of Christ’s birth, death, and resurrection is in question to this very day, and most likely has nothing to do with the current holidays of Christmas and Easter. You yourself point these facts out later in your comments. So to say that Christians “stole” these ideas for their own origins may be true, but is irrelevant; I don’t claim that Christ was actually born on December 25th, because I know that that date was chosen by the church to distract from the pagan holiday that already took place then, just as you say. As to the significance and manner, the particulars of Christ’s life was prophesied long before the idols of the Greeks and Romans had even been conceived. Christians did not steal these ideas from ancient idol histories–the Greeks and Romans stole these ideas from the Jewish prophecies instead! Titles such as “Lamb of God” represented the sacrifice that Jews had to offer to God for forgiveness from their sins. Jesus was to become the Perfect Lamb, so that no further sacrifices were necessary. As to His miracles, one has only to read the accounts (written by four different people at four different times to four different cultures) to see that that they were no magician’s tricks. While things like changing water into wine and feeding the five thousand can be explained easily enough (albeit with quite a collection of coincidences), things like the healing of the Roman’s servant, the healing of the ten lepers, the calming of the storm, etc., cannot be explained without assuming a conspiracy of such magnitude that it rivals the Illuminati! The Greeks may have recorded Attis dying before Christ, and there are probably even better examples; but if you expect me to believe that Isaiah predicted the methods Jesus would use to fool half the Roman Empire, then I might as well believe otherwise, since either way I am believing in a miracle.

      • Absolution -  December 22, 2015 - 9:21 pm

        Nice point on the prophecy matters, I actually forgot about those… NICE WORK!

    • stuart -  December 18, 2015 - 12:22 pm

      What a load of rubbish you are spouting. None of it was taken from pagan stories at all. The story of his life and ministry in general came from the four books of Matthew Mark Luke and John. Plus a few others at the time.
      People were crucified centuries before Jesus was, and THAT is why they use the cross as a symbol of Christ, no one said the cross was exclusive to him and Christianity.
      Yes, it is possible that Jesus’s birthday was set in December to convert pagans, but it’s just as likely that they set this date as it was in the latter part of the year that a census was done on the citizens in that area. (as recorded in Roman documents from that time) Which brings me back to an earlier comment on your posts that there are too many records found that prove he did exist. So please stop the Jesus denial.
      As for the cross, yes it differs as it’s a cross that he was crucified on and not the Eqyptian cross or Ankh as it’s known.
      Jesus actually spoke about the sanctity of marriage and how important it was, and that we mast all be faithful often quoting Genesis 1 and 2.
      He believed it was a calling from god that people should marry and believed in the sanctity of it. There are no records that he or his followers denounced marriage or that people shouldn’t marry.
      There is no real records of Christians not believeing in marriage, I can only assume you’ve got your information from one of the many spoof online news blogs like The Huffington Post or The Big onion etc.
      Marriage was very important to Christianity. So your wrong there.
      As for Lupercalia, again you are wrong wrong wrong. It’s actually early Roman and possibly before this as they believe it may be of Greek origin.
      It was celebrated in early Rome from the 13th to 15th of February (Februarius) to avert evil spirits, purify the city releasing health and fertility. Lupercalia subsumed Februa which is where the month of February got it’s name. Lupercalia comes form Lupercus who was the god of shephards. Absolutely nothing to do with love letters. Maybe the pagans made that up and stole February 14th as a love day then put all other religious claims to that day down.
      Anyway, why can’t other religions have the same day as another religion as a day of worship or tradition? Bloody ridiculous.
      So Christianity had a trinity,,,,,,,,,,and?
      These are just a few places that had trinities in their religion,
      Sumaria, Babylonia, India, Greece, Egypt, Phonicia, Rome and Germanic tribes all worshipped a trinity.
      So your obvious attack at one religion actually makes you look rather silly.
      I think your a pagan that just wants to have a dig at Christmas, if you don’t like Christmas that’s fine, no one is asking you to get involved in it!

      • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 7:22 am

        I think the fact that Christmas as a public holiday is forcing everyone to get involved in it, whether or not they want to. How would you feel if Christmas was not a public holiday anymore, and instead Bodhi Day was a public holiday, celebrated by everyone. If someone said to you “Happy Bodhi Day!”, how would you feel? Especially if you responded with a negative/neutral response and someone replied with “No one is asking you to get involved in it!”

      • robert podbery -  December 22, 2015 - 1:31 pm

        You really cant trust the bbc news especially where the reporting of the Israeli attacks on paleatinians is hushed and the palestinians on the israelis is exaggerated. even so they are the most honest news people in the world
        by far.
        so what chance is there that something written 2000 years ago is true?
        Records are kept now but if there was some sort of apocolypse,, in 2000 years time the “jedi religion” may just be believed,
        To argue about it being true is very sad.
        In truth l am very envious of people that believe, it must be nice to believe
        in reward for a good life, in heaven,
        Muslim or christian, but l cant believe no matter how hard l try

    • Richard -  December 21, 2015 - 6:52 am

      The greatest tool saten uses among God’s creation is to make us all believe the lie that neither exist. Jhon 8:44 says saten is the father of lies and whom ever follows his lies is concidered to be his children. The letter to the hebrews in 9:27 says it is apponted for men to die once and then the judgement. God will be the ultimate Judge. Jesus came to give us life and life more abundantly. Those who call upon the name of Jesus shall be saved from from the wrath of God (acts 2).

      • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 7:32 am

        I say that whoever doesn’t believe me is the spawn of the devil. Also, anyone who doesn’t believe that they are the spawn of the devil, for not believing in the devil, are without knowing, devil worshippers. Also anyone who denies any association with worshipping the devil as a direct consequence of not believing in the devil and therefore being devil spawn, may quite possibly be Satan ‘him’self.

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 10:59 pm

        There is no God. How can a grown man believe these fairytales? Astonishing.

    • sprat -  December 21, 2015 - 9:30 am

      I don’t know where you get your history lessons from, but wow, “go back to school”.

      • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 7:01 pm

        Shut Up

        • Hermione Granger The 2nd -  December 23, 2015 - 7:02 pm

          I meant to sprat.not you Richard I believe your telling the truth god bless you

      • Olivia -  December 29, 2015 - 9:39 am

        This is not no normal history like the history they teach you at school this is the Holy Bible. I pray that Jesus will save you.

    • John -  December 21, 2015 - 10:45 am

      You are ignorant an misinformed and I’m feel sorry for you. How where Christians supposed to “rip off” all of these things from pagans when Christianaty originated away from Greece and their specific beliefs. They weren’t about to copy all of the values of the Romans, much less the Greeks. Stop waisting your time with meaningless facts that don’t change the opinion of the millions of Christians in this world. No wonder you haven’t responded to anyone who rebutes your ideas, you can’t respond because your “facts” are inaccurate and far fetched. Not to mention fueled by emotion rather than logic.

      • Daniel Johnson -  December 22, 2015 - 5:19 pm

        New to the English language, are you?

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:01 pm

        They are facts. You just don’t want to hear facts because it brings your faith into question. Just like a little kid who doesn’t want to stop believing in Santa.

    • You -  December 21, 2015 - 10:56 am

      Just shut up, You obviously are consumed with bias and idiotic behaviors that cause you to spend a stupid amount of time trying to prove ridiculous conspiracy theories that make no sense. All based off of made up “gods” and “goddess” . If you don’t believe in God, that’s fine. But don’t make things worse by deliberately trying to start a feud off of your unbelievabley outrageouse theories and display of uneducation.

      • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 6:52 am

        If anyone, ever, must comment on someone’s education, please use proper grammar and spelling while condemning them, otherwise you instantly loose all credibility.

        This whole thread is “outrageous”, But I can’t look away,,,

        • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 7:48 am

          “unbelievably outrageous”*

          Also uneducated is fine, but uneducation is not a word unfortunately.

          I may be putting the ass in classist, but at least I’m self aware that I’m doing it.
          Does being self aware about being classist make it okay? No
          Does calling out people on their uneducation with words like uneducation make it okay?
          Wouldn’t it be nice if instead of being negative and pointing out people’s faults I put in positive discussion?

      • Jake -  December 23, 2015 - 2:26 pm

        Actually, Tracey is correct (and I’m a Christian).

        As much as most, especially fundamentalist, Christians would like to think that all of Christianity is literal and developed completely independent of other historical events around it, that’s simply not true.

        Christianity is an amalgam of different, largely Greek and Jewish religious beliefs (with various other Pagan beliefs added later) that existed long before the birth of Christ. I tend to think of it as a continuation of universal truths that have existed for most of humanity’s existence. I’m not alone in this view; many people in several different Christian denominations believe this as well.

        It’s not an accident that there’s a large painting of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle in the Academy at Athens in St. Peter’s in the Vatican. These three Greek philosophers who lived centuries before Christ, greatly influenced Christian thinking. I’m amazed and a little frightened by how little modern Christians know about the origins of their religion.

        My apologies if these facts offend any thin skinned Christians, who have built up a shaky worldview based on misinformation. However, you should seek the truth, for it will set you free.

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:07 pm

        If you were educated, you wouldn’t belive in childish fairytales. Christians hate facts when it brings their idiotic faith in to question.

    • David thompson -  December 22, 2015 - 5:12 am

      Yeah, and the romans almost completely stole all of greek religion and mythology, religions evolve, what’s your point?

    • A. Pagan -  December 22, 2015 - 1:56 pm

      Tracey, isn’t it amusing to see how all the brainwashed children just keep on rehashing the same cr@p over and over when the pure unadulterated facts are right there under their silly Xtian noses? “I know, ’cause the Bible tells me so.” Yeah, and witches fly on broomsticks and cats suck the breath out of babies too!!!

    • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 6:11 pm

      Honey, what your getting messed up is Jesus and his story has nothing to do with pagan beliefs. The Trinity is The Father, The Son, an The Holy Spirit.Communion is originally the Blood and body of Christ. I don’t know where your getting your facts. But everything that jesus did was already there. The pagans took what he did and turned it into sin. Like they did with everthing else. The virgin Mary. The woman who gave birth to jesus is Jesus’ mother. It was the Catholics who got the mother-child worship from babylon and put it in their faith. You Don’t pray to Mary you pray directly to God or Jesus. Both can hear.Mary is not the Mother of God.Jesus’ story was not Copied but Copied from. The pagan Gods wished to be like jesus so they made their own rituals similar Jesus’. Or at least the people decide that.

    • Absolution -  December 22, 2015 - 9:15 pm

      Hey Tracey! First of all, I would like to state that I am a Christian, and instead of you’re example, I’ll try not to be biased. To me, it seems like you have done quite a bit of research, some of which is true, others flawed. In your first paragraph, about the Greek gods, “the timing, significance and manner of death” of Jesus, is quite coincidental, but you never specified how this was replicated into Jesus’ life. If you can plainly state that what the Bible states is false, in which you have no solid evidence to back you’re arguments, then I am also reserved the right to state your arguments are faulty and in some ways false. I feel like your depending most of your arguments on Pagans. The word “pagan” was formed by Christians to refer to any other religion other than their own, so when you use the word “pagan”, you are actually making a very broad statement. What evidence is there that Jesus’ miracles were common tricks? The fact that people use the word “miracles”, probably has some meaning behind it, in which you did too. You didn’t use the word “schemes”, “magic” or “tricks”, in fact you used “miracles”. Something to think about. Now, let’s input some logic. Haha… If generations before Jesus, “miracles” were commonly performed, they probably wouldn’t have been miracles by Jesus’ time, and yet 2.2 billion people are devoted to this religion. If your statement was true, wouldn’t you think someone, sometime would have revealed the, in quotes, “truth”? But instead 2015 years later, now you’re trying to disprove the existence of Jesus? Easter’s name did in fact originate from pagans, and Christmas was originally a pagan festival, so I’ll give you that one. But, you should know that Christmas wasn’t created by Catholics for a day to celebrate Jesus’ birth. By the way, the winter solstice is on the 22nd not the 25th… THE LINGAM IS NOT A SYMBOL OF THE CROSS AND VICE VERSA, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE U GOT THAT FROM, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO EVEN THINK OF THAT SAYS THAT YOU MAY VERY WELL BE INTELLECTUALLY IMPAIRED. I’m not really sure but I can’t exactly tell which side you are on, you always say “possibly” and then you state some fabricated “evidence” to disprove the existence of Jesus… Your paragraph on marriage was just completely stupid. If you really want to delve deeper into knowledge, you may want to try and actually read the Bible before you say anything. Lastly, when you want to argue a point, bring REAL facts to the table please… because trust me, you’re gonna lose this one. <3 Good night Tracey, hope you can be saved as well. :D

    • Tag -  December 23, 2015 - 6:17 am

      Well said, Tracey.
      Anyone with reason would see right through Christian doctrine and the faux history it created. But I’ve learnt long ago – you can’t convince a person of faith to see the absurdities of their belief, no matter how much evidence you through at them.

    • no man -  December 23, 2015 - 9:33 am

      Tracey, keep reading and never stop saying how you see the world. not everyone will see it your way or agree. Dont forget to respect others though. this question says it best, why do you not believe all the other religions of the world and why doesn’t it apply to your view?

    • jamesbond -  December 23, 2015 - 10:58 am

      Tracey I suggest you to watch 101 things that changed the world, there are proof of existence, original scripts of today’s bible not based on pagan stories that you we’re mentioning and fudge you stupid idiot have a wonderful Christmas to you best wishes and rest in peace men! hate everything you say happy all saints day to you mr. genius you all knowing saint! ignorant brat!

    • The voice in the wilderness -  December 23, 2015 - 2:18 pm

      zeitgiestmuch huh?

    • Jake -  December 23, 2015 - 2:24 pm

      Actually, Tracey is correct (and I’m a Christian).

      As much as most, especially fundamentalist, Christians would like to think that all of Christianity is literal and developed completely independent of other historical events around it, that’s simply not true.

      Christianity is an amalgam of different, largely Greek and Jewish religious beliefs (with various other Pagan beliefs added later) that existed long before the birth of Christ. I tend to think of it as a continuation of universal truths that have existed for most of humanity’s existence. I’m not alone in this view; many people in several different Christian denominations believe this as well.

      It’s not an accident that there’s a large painting of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle in the Academy at Athens in St. Peter’s in the Vatican. These three Greek philosophers who lived centuries before Christ, greatly influenced Christian thinking. I’m amazed and a little frightened by how little modern Christians know about the origins of their religion.

      My apologies if these facts offend any thin skinned Christians, who have built up a shaky worldview based on misinformation. However, you should seek the truth, for it will set you free.

    • Gothstaff -  December 24, 2015 - 8:01 am

      To much conspiracy videos and antichristian propaganda. Some study from academic sources will help You. But why this antichristian madness anyway? There is something strange. Lesbian or witch maybe?

    • Carolynn -  December 28, 2015 - 8:51 am

      Wow Tracey – great copy and paste job – from my perspective; I believe I see some of the same statements on Wikipedia.
      Onward – the great thing about society and the advent of mass communications is that we can have these dialogs, with one another and, hopefully, learn from each other. It’s very clear from the dialog on this subject that he is still as prevalent and present as he ever was. Happy New Year everyone, regardless of what day you celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.

    • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 6:48 pm

      wow first thing Jesus drank wine he made water into wine at a wedding. He did say not to be drunk from the wine. reading what you said shows me you do not know the Bible which is what I live by nor do you know history. to try and show you anything just makes it crazy. good luck with all the useless knowledge hope others do not take a thing you said as fact.

  41. Dagger -  December 9, 2015 - 7:19 pm

    you all arguing over what a pagan holiday should be called makes me so glad I am Atheist ……. there is no documents proving a man named Jesus was born on December 25th not even in your own bible…If someone greets me with Merry Christmas I respond the same back no one wants to change what you believe, I will respond back if addressed happy holidays the same or how ever anyone else celebrates…Christians always want to claim all as their own so get over it

    • A. Pagan -  December 23, 2015 - 8:13 am

      Dagger, you are so right. This is called COMMON COURTESY! Everyone has the right to believe whatever they want as long as they hurt no one. I also respond as you do because I will respect anyone’s religion, unless they try to convert or force their beliefs upon me. Being an Atheist is a rather noble position to have because the true Atheist questions things, a sign of independent thinking and a higher form of intellect.

    • Sattrax -  December 23, 2015 - 11:37 pm

      There is only one sin that will not be forgiven and that is denial of the existence of God. As a self-professed atheist, you have managed to find it quickly. One forgets the illusion of the world. So it is for those who worship at an empty altar.

    • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 6:51 pm

      prove it. you don’t see air but you cannot live without it. you so do not speak for me nor do you know me so cut out your attitude. I like how Atheist usually try to prove themselves right. If you believe that why are you in this group ? why all the effort to say we don’t have a God if you didn’t know of him why do you try so hard to fight it ???

  42. Buddy -  December 5, 2015 - 9:49 am

    This is all such a totally irrelevant discussion because Christ nor any of his apostles nor any early Christians celebrated Christmas in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Christmas was invented by what later became the Catholic Church and should not be bound as a “Christian tradition” or “Christian holiday.” You can be a 100% faithful Christian and perfectly acceptable in God’s sight even if you never celebrate Christmas one time. He is neither more pleased if you celebrate it nor less pleased if you don’t celebrate it because HE DIDN’T COMMAND IT!

    • Cody -  December 12, 2015 - 2:17 pm

      Happy birthday

    • Roy -  December 13, 2015 - 7:01 am

      Buddy, you are absolutely right.

    • stuart -  December 18, 2015 - 2:00 pm

      No one said he did command it, the same way no one commands anyone to celebrate yours or my birthday.
      And it was the Romans that first celebrated Christmas and NOT the catholic church.
      It was under the reign of Emperor Constantine (who was the first Christian Roman Emperor) that the first ever recorded celebration of Christ’s birth was celebrated on the 25th December 336AD,and a few years later it was Pope Julius 1 that declared Jesus’s birthday should be celebrated on the 25th of December.

      • Beastofburden -  December 30, 2015 - 7:57 am

        So the Roman empire in 300 AD wasn’t the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH….keep struggling….

    • KB -  December 21, 2015 - 11:41 am


    • SAJAN -  December 21, 2015 - 9:56 pm

      Yes that is the truth

  43. Karen -  December 2, 2015 - 11:55 am

    Clearly some of you do not realize the New Testament, that is, the story of Christ, as well as the Apocrypha, were composed in Greek, not in English, and not in “American.” Christmas is a global holiday celebrated by billions. The Christogram is a real thing, dating back much further than the “hundreds of years” the author mentions. Constantine the Great first used it as an imperial symbol and began to popularize it. If you’ve ever been in a catacomb, you’ll have seen the X, sometimes paired with a P (rho), on many tombs. It was the first cross, if you will. I can assure you all the X has significant, ancient meaning. Much more meaning, in fact, than our English alphabet. Using Xmas instead of Christmas should, more than anything, be a reminder to all of us of how deeply rooted and ancient Christianity is. Seeing this symbol of Christ used, much like the ischos (fish symbol that you see on people’s cars), is a validation of long held tradition, not an attempt to undermine the meaning of Christmas. Please no more ignorant or judgmental comments.

    • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 5:47 pm

      Also what a lot of people don’t know is the bible has been tampered with since the begining Check it out.

  44. what is the cloud storage -  November 30, 2015 - 10:43 pm

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate your efforts and I am waiting
    for your further write ups thank you once again.

    • lori -  December 1, 2015 - 5:54 pm

      I think everyone needs to get over themselves. I always thought X in XMAS stood for Christ. Turns out I thought right. Does it really matter that much that we need 100 or more comments that become arguments on here, really??!?!? But you all seem to forget just about every language in the world, (I’m sure there are some exceptions) is derived from Greek and/or Latin. So, it’s purely my opinion that we technically speak Greek and/or Latin to some extent. Why do these little things matter so much when people are being killed over less important things. Nevermind ISIS or ISIL, I perfer to call it ISIL, as I have a friend whose daughter who is 10, is named ISIS after the Egyptian God, not a terrorist group. her husband is Egyptian. Now I’m sure I have offended many of you, that’s fine curse me all you want. Let me just say this….I am a Christian, I believe in God, and his son Jesus and everything I was taught growing up. So, If I use and X instead of Christ, crucify me, call me every name in the book, I know that Jesus is in my heart. I thought he said to love one another. I didn’t think there were conditions to that such as love one another unless the write Xmas instead of Christmas. For Christians you sure are judgemental….only God can judge…..remember that…..and by the way….MERRY XMAS…sorry if I misspelled anything, please don’t judge me on that…..

      • Jan -  December 3, 2015 - 10:45 pm

        Well said :) (Y)

        • Karole Fedrick -  December 7, 2015 - 9:56 am

          There are many languages that have nothing to do with Greek or Latin. Chinese, Arabic, Native American languages, African languages and dialects, et.

          I understand the history of the “X,” but most people don’t. For Christians who don’t know the history, it’s easy to understand why its usage is offensive to them, especially in this time where the secularists are trying to remove Christ from everything.

          • Free-Man -  December 12, 2015 - 3:32 pm


        • Precious -  December 21, 2015 - 7:35 am

          What do you mean by well said ok pretty guy. Also how did you get the smily face.

      • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:09 am

        I really disagree about people saying Xmas. I strongly believe x is Christ. People shouldn’t be saying Xmas, they should be saying Christmas. the reason why the Christ is in Christmas because Christmas is all about Jesus’ birth. If anyone is reading this, I advise them to stop calling Christmas Xmas (if you are) and call it Christmas)

        • WayneMV -  December 15, 2015 - 6:07 pm

          You are correct that it when it’s pronounced out loud it should be “Christmas.” Χmas is properly just a written abbreviation, not a spoken one.

          It is commonplace in ancient New Testament manuscripts for the Greek words for God, Jesus, Christ, Spirit, a sometimes several other words to be abbreviated; the practice is called nomina sacra. But the words were pronounced in full when those manuscripts were read out loud. The same should go for Χmas.

        • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:24 pm

          Lol! I’d advise you to start speaking Aramaic then. Jesus was not his name either. It was Eashoa’ M’sheekha. Only call him by his real name. See how silly you sound.

      • Dret -  December 23, 2015 - 12:38 pm

        I agree with the general message of your comment, lori. However, I would like to point out that the majority of languages have very little (if any) etymological connection to Latin and/or Greek. Both Latin and Greek are members of the Proto-Indo-European language family, one of many language families of the world. Therefore, we are not all speaking Greek and/or Latin. Aside from that, though, good post!

      • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 6:59 pm

        didn’t you just judge the people here ?

    • Annette -  December 4, 2015 - 12:31 am

      My favorite reply is Jenny’s who thinks that people didn’t believe in Christ in the 1500s. Too funny!

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:54 pm

        You belive in childish fairytales. Now that’s funny but also very sad.

  45. CJunior -  October 30, 2015 - 2:20 pm

    Well I stopped reading after the hundredth comment …
    … But what I’ve gathered is that in fact the term Xmas is not meant to be offensive … But simply as an abbreviation with its relevant meaning

    And even if its as you say laziness:
    Its natural for ppl to abbr stuff … Even d tings DAT aren’t all DAT necessary

    Know what I mean
    Not meant to be offensive, but its human nature

    If you find it wrong and against your belief
    Then you don’t do it geez
    “Juss doh vex wit ppl wen dem do deh ting”
    And that just the dialect in my country and my culture
    Remember long ago they also had theirs
    And their reasons

    So if its not for you
    Then maybe you can join some ANTI-ABBREVIATION-CLUB or sumn (AAC)
    Just my stupid opinion

  46. Darby -  January 9, 2015 - 2:25 pm

    the word x-mas is offensive. this means that instead of worshiping “Christ”, I have to worship “X”. X-mas is the most offensive to me. I really hate it when people say that.

    • Annabeth Chase -  January 27, 2015 - 12:22 am

      I used to think that too, but “x” stands for christ. In Greek. the language that a lot of the bible started in

      • Bob -  May 21, 2015 - 6:27 pm

        I still think it is offensive.bleven God in a series way and I try to obay him.

        • daniela -  May 28, 2015 - 4:11 pm

          Are you part of a Christian cult that doesn’t teach proper English?

          • Mike -  October 12, 2015 - 11:14 am

            oy vey…..Bob, read the article….. “obay” him? jeez…..

          • Lil -  December 25, 2015 - 11:26 pm

            Guys, X is Jesus’s intial, in a different language. That’s it. Would it be offensive if we celebrated C-Mas? or J-Mas? Or is that offensive too, since that wasn’t Jesus’s native language or something?

          • susannah -  January 3, 2016 - 4:56 pm

            Daniela; After reading so many comments here getting hung up on grammar, spelling, slightly incorrect contexts, it seems to me that accusing someone of being in “a cult that doesn’t teach proper English” is a good example of being stupid. This world is a multi-leveled culture on all levels where there is validity, and us humans, loved by God/Sugmad/HU have the right to express ourselves. Especially with love. We GET to be here; lets try and listen to each other; that is love in action. Stop judging. Keep communicating:)

        • Chris -  November 8, 2015 - 8:19 pm

          I’m pretty sure “God” would be offended by your spelling.

          • Kathy -  November 9, 2015 - 5:32 pm

            and God would be offended by your judgmental ways.

          • Rosacé -  December 1, 2015 - 8:09 pm

            Ar some point people used it a lot in writing. Then the rowdy butt hurt evAngelicals learned to read. Then it be something to be hatred and have it is crushed out of existence

          • Jenna -  December 9, 2015 - 5:24 pm

            It looks like English is thier second language. Give props, not insults.

      • JOE -  November 26, 2015 - 2:07 pm

        so are we suggesting Xray is Christray then?

        The real intention is to deny the truth for not all are Greeks nor instructed else where.

        That is why those who could careless of others called it happy holidays instead. But that is fine it doesn’t offend good Christians anymore as long as they know the truth. THE REASON FOR THE HOLIDAY.


        • Ojibobo -  December 22, 2015 - 5:10 pm

          YOU may celebrate it as the reason, but technically it’s not since Jesus wasn’t even born in December. Shepherds are not in the field in the winter, as the story of Jesus’ birth states.

          The dates of Christmas were to recognize the Winter Solstice which was celebrated with a feast of dedication, by both pagans and the Jews. It is an eight-day festival started and celebrated by the Jewish hero Judas Maccabeus (190 BCE-160 BCE), the “festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple.” This 8-day festival is called simply “Lights,” as in the “festival of Lights.” Otherwise known as Hannukah, and also lesser known as a great religious festival of the Sun God, Yahweh.

          In the pagan traditions of Ireland, “The Baal-fire feast, or meeting, was a great festival in Ireland, on the 25th of December, and midsummer eve. Baal, or Bel, was a name of the sun all over the east.” But the Roman Catholic Church wanted to replace the pagan festival with a Christian holy one.

          It is important to note that the “December 25th” birthdate only applies to the age and hemisphere in which the winter solstice falls on December 21-24. In other ages, the solstice month is different, changing with the precession of the equinoxes every 2150 years.

          The December 25th birthdate is that of the sun, not a “real person,” revealing its unoriginality within Christianity and the true nature of the Christian godman. “Christmas” was not incorporated into Christianity until 354 AD/CE. In reality, there is no evidence, no primary sources which show that “Jesus is the reason for the season.”

          • Ojibobo -  December 22, 2015 - 5:18 pm

            Let me add this: My explanation above is simply an historical record and is not meant to diminish one’s faith. I grew up in a religious household, went to Bible school, and attended a private religious primary school. So faith was something very near and dear to me, but I was also fascinated with the actual historical facts since the historical facts are far different than what the holy texts proclaim.

            Just because the historical origins of these holidays may have non-Christian roots, they are TODAY celebrated for those religious reasons. They are recognized today as celebrations of that faith, and therefore as long as real Christians are being true to their faith, then the historical origins of these events shouldn’t matter to them.

            But, at the same time nor should we accept what we are told at face value. There are a LOT of inconsistencies, mistranslations, and errors that have been transcribed over the thousands of years the Bible has been in existence. A good case in point is that Satan and Lucifer originally were two separate entities. Due to a mistranslation from Hebrew into Greek into Latin, certain liberties were taken and over the thousands of years, they were eventually recognized as the same being. it’s interesting to note that originally Lucifer and Satan weren’t even fallen angels.

            While it’s one thing to celebrate your faith in a Christ-like manner, it’s another thing altogether to not actually know your faith’s history and believing it has been unchanged since its inception.

      • Jenny -  December 2, 2015 - 8:21 am

        no x stands for the first part of Christ CHi but they didn’t believe in Christ in 1500 so they X’d it out and said it represented it X is no matter what you say is taking Christ out of Christmas

        • Robbin -  December 4, 2015 - 3:51 pm

          They didn’t believe in Christ in 1500?? Please look up Martin Luther and John Calvin. This is the time period with people shifting from Catholicism to Protestant views. The Bible became highly regarded during this time period. People were moving to the New World and hoped to convert “savages” to the ways of Christ. When I first read this comment, I thought you were being sarcastic, but the end of your comment leads me to believe you were very serious. If the time period has an A.D. after it, people definitely believed in Christ.

    • Kat -  March 13, 2015 - 4:59 am

      You must not have read the article, very well! “X” is the Greek letter “Chi”, which is the first letter in the Greek word “Χριστός”, which just so happens to mean “Christ”, in Greek! Therefore “XMas” does mean “Christmas”! Also “X” has been an acceptable representation of the word “Christ” for hundreds of years!

      • linda marie cull -  May 20, 2015 - 6:59 pm

        It is a term used by non christians mostly jews. They find the word Christian distainful. They believe in the power of words and names. When they use the term xtian they are actually showing their distain. They believe you become what you are called. We choose our kids names just because we like how it sounds. They would never do that. The term is an insult I assure you. I asked my dad about it as he is 100% Greek from Greece. It doesn’t make sense to create a word that is half English half Greek when there is already a word! and it’s not an abbreviation because they are lazy. They don’t like to say the real reason. If you look at some rabbis thoughts on the matter you will find I’m speaking the truth. Have you ever heard christians do it?

        • Ryan -  November 1, 2015 - 1:09 pm

          Linda, you’re an iduote

          • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 9:26 am

            I understand iduote means idiot, but i can’t accept that spelling, just as I cannot accept Xmas over Christmas.
            I get the intention, but it’s rude, just as it’s rude to insult me with an incorrectly spelt ableist word. Insult me properly. Thx.
            Hap. Holi.
            Gd Bls.

        • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 5:53 pm

          I’m Jewish and I actually believe that names do matter. It’s a way to explain who or what someone is.

    • B. Will -  April 1, 2015 - 8:22 pm

      Article states: “X has been an acceptable representation of the word “Christ” for hundreds of years.”

      NOT in america is hasn’t. We speak English, NOT Greek.

      To abbreviate it simply as “X” is taking “Christ” out of “Christian” because people don’t want to SEE that word. The same goes for “Xmas” or “Crossing” (Xing). Christ and Cross both taken out.

      The devil has made it his task to make sure these words will be seen as little as possible by people, lest they be reminded of Jesus and the Cross.

      • hank -  April 7, 2015 - 8:54 am

        The X is like a little picture for the cross. Getting bent out of shape over something that wasn’t an issue until you made it one is not very Xtian of you. Drop that useless x and pick up some love for your enemies, because that’s the higher law that X came to preach. Love, light, and peace be with you.

        • Mike -  October 12, 2015 - 11:15 am

          Right on Hank

        • Sheryl -  November 30, 2015 - 6:37 am

          Love this

        • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 10:04 am

          Genesis 1:27 “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

          Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

          Psalm 86:15 But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness.

          Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who does not believe will be condemned.

          With abounding love, but boundaries all the same, not everyone is loved enough to go to heaven. Peace be with you, whether that be to heaven, or to hell.

          Hap. Holi.
          Gd Bls.

      • Helen -  November 11, 2015 - 8:40 pm

        Unfortunately you seem to forget that the USA is only a small fraction of this world, and a small fraction of practising Xtians.
        Maybe instead of getting angry that you don’t understand something, take the time to learn. You might find some interesting things not only about your religion, but our World as a whole.

        • Sonya -  December 10, 2015 - 10:34 am

          I totally agree. People get offended by everything and assume to be right. Become informed before you criticize.

        • Derick -  December 29, 2015 - 7:26 pm

          Very well said but beware of Christians. They’ve never been the sharpest knife in the drawer.

      • Nonidiot -  December 20, 2015 - 5:55 pm

        Hey bud you realize the Bible wasn’t written in English you dumb a$$

      • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:40 pm

        Jesus is not from America and his name is Eashoa’ M’sheekha, not Jesus. Grow up dummy!

      • Dan -  December 24, 2015 - 5:29 am

        English is a mutt language to begin with. Its roots are Germanic, but it has heavy Latin and Greek influence as well, so when you speak English, you’re speaking a language that’s Greek-influenced to some degree, regardless of its roots. Furthermore, ‘X’ is used as an abbreviation for ‘cross’ because — get this! — the way you write an ‘X’ is with two lines that CROSS each other! Doesn’t that just blow your mind?!

    • kneegrow -  April 2, 2015 - 9:00 am

      You obviously didn’t ready the article…

    • cwatkins -  July 28, 2015 - 5:53 pm

      So that would be like me abbreviating Christmas as “Cmas”. Still pretty offensive since it leaves out Christ and is meant to obscure the true meaning.

      • Nish -  December 1, 2015 - 6:28 am

        Your comment totally shows how much you did not understand the article. Back when English was not even a language, the Church used languages that WERE around at the time. If you google about this enough, you will find that Christian (Xtian) literature from those times made use of the term Xmas. They didn’t just pick a random alphabet – the X means Christ in Ancient Greek. There’s an actual meaning behind the use of Xmas. As opposed to your comment of using “C”. Take things within the context they occur in. Making ignorant comments like yours just makes us readers doubt your comprehension of written words.

    • none -  October 1, 2015 - 2:38 pm

      hope you have a merry Xmas this year. I’ll be playing my christbox One, after going to the hospital for a christ ray.

    • Janet -  November 9, 2015 - 2:32 am

      It is totally offensive and I agree with you 100%
      I don’t care nor do I buy what blogs says – funny
      how some of the foolish explanations were not
      there a few years ago. I worship Jesus. Not some
      short cut from the alphabet.

    • Lorelei -  November 10, 2015 - 12:26 pm


    • Dr. Michael Smith -  November 11, 2015 - 9:08 pm

      Friend, we are not telling you to use the letter X we are simply informing people that the letter X is not removing Christ from Christmas. It’s like we call him Jesus when in reality his hebrew name is JHVH Jevoah without the vowels and the vowels were left out because they represented weakness and there is no weakness in him, However he is no longer just jesus for he is now as Peter identifies him as the Christ the son of the living God. For all intents and purposes I perfer Christmas but I don’t get upset or angry when someone thinks they are taking Christ out of christmas, I just realize how ignorant they really are…..God bless you my friend.

      • Lucy -  November 28, 2015 - 2:31 pm

        Michael, Jehova, Yahweh is the name of god, not Jesus. The true name of Jesus is Jeshua (pronounced Heshua). The Romans changed his name to Jesus because it was culturally more acceptable to them to have a latin named deity instead of a Jewish one.

        • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:42 pm

          Actually his name is Eashoa’ M’sheekha.

      • dot -  December 12, 2015 - 8:49 am

        Christ was never in Christmas it’s a Catholic term n Catholics are not Christians they are Catholic (common)they changed the mode of baptism along with many other things added the apocryphal books etc they admit this in their encyclopedias true Christians believed in 1 God and they were martyred because of it and the 1500s (dark ages) was a time of great suffering by true believers not trinitarians but one God apostolic Jesus name Christians (Christ like) when Constantine (325 ad) saw the true 1 God Christians were being killed by the pagans who believed in many God’s he formulated a creed at the niacin council we know it today as the niacin creed or the trinity the Catholic Church became the state religion and anyone trying to believe any other way was killed everything from that point on was Catholic not Christian except for the tiny remnant of underground Christians who never bowed to that false doctrine (thank you Jesus) and today all the traditional holidays are Catholic replicas of pagan origin so Christ was never in Christmas and it makes sense that they are removing his name altogether because the whole world still wants Christ removed and since the Catholic Church is the world church mother of all other churches not the 1 true church Jesus started but the antichrist church of the end times of course it will be removed

        • Amanda -  December 22, 2015 - 7:48 am

          Can you try using punctuation next time? I got lost in reading your post because I couldn’t tell when to pause, etc. Your argument is lost because it’s unreadable.

        • tejano -  December 31, 2015 - 11:16 pm

          “it’s a Catholic term n Catholics are not Christians they are Catholic…” and is ” the antichrist church of the end times … etc. etc.

          If ever there were proof needed that religion of any kind can twist otherwise intelligent minds (well, maybe otherwise intelligent) into a blend of ignorance and insanity, it is embodied in the comments in this thread, both in the blind faith displayed by the most Christian here, in the present bigoted comments of this person, and in the blind, faith-based, unsubstantiated attempts of the atheist above to prove what cannot be proven – that there was no person known as the Christ.

          Tell us, please, how is it that an “X” in the word “Xmas”, used for centuries as a SYMBOL of a cross in various contexts, could be a pejorative reference to Christ when in fact the symbol of the Cross itself adorns thousands of Christian churches all over the world. A symbol is a symbol, a short-hand way of notating something, nothing less, nothing more. You are allowing prejudice and ignorance to override every faculty of your God-given sense of rationality to think it anything else.

          But you, Dot, perhaps take the cake. For all the real and perceived evils of the Catholic (which for the most part were the failings of human beings with a Medieval view of the world), the very un-Christ-like charges you level at today’s Catholic church are as much a distortion of Christianity as ISIL’s are of Islam. To say Catholics are not Christian you not only display your ignorance but are guilty of a very unjust bearing of false witness and sinful pride in your own view of the Gospels. Have you ever been in Catholic Church, listened to a Catholic sermon? No. Catholics are very much Christians and you are clueless.

    • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 5:50 pm

      Really x means death. And what is up with people being offended. What’s offensive is somebody coming into you house taking your kids and calling you crazy because you read the bible and believe in God. That’s Offensive.

    • Bartje -  December 23, 2015 - 6:02 am

      You are not worshipping Christ. You worship the one and only God almighty. Jesus said this many times in the Bible. He has no power and no miracle without God given them to him. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

    • Mike -  December 23, 2015 - 11:26 pm

      You hate it because you’re ignorant. We fear what we do not know. That’s how faith came about.

    • nobuhle -  December 24, 2015 - 1:01 am

      its also made me sad coz I thought that the letter X stands for nothing so when we call xmas we actually don’t know what we celebrating

    • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 7:01 pm

      so you didn’t look up xmas if you did you would have seen it is not offense. its in the language the Bible was written in the first place.

  47. Melody -  January 2, 2015 - 8:34 pm

    Great, now make an article about the origin on how the date for Christmas was chosen, i.e., to convert Pagans over to Christianity since December 25th was for the Pagan holiday Yule time.

    • BARAUCHZANAR -  January 10, 2015 - 5:07 am

      to be truthful I don’t know the origin but the Day never researched it before but most important the question is asked if I was born on a Day or a holiday that is worshipped by pagans or we saying by celebrating my birthday on such a day it would be wrong?cause as far as I’m concerned every single day is a pagan holiday and were named after pagan gods forinstance if you should research it you as withe many others will come to the same realization that Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday are all Pagan names so why do we have an issue with the Day that Christians would celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ that there should even ever be an argument about it. I don’t think so not important I know in whom I believe and I know who I’m talking to and when I chose to call upon him. so the rest of it for me is history makes no sense. GOD bless.

      • Ellie Javier -  October 25, 2015 - 10:17 pm

        Well said!

      • Helen -  November 11, 2015 - 8:46 pm

        Actually, many people that have dedicated their lives to studying and following the bible agree that Jesus wasn’t actually born on December 25. It was made that date to coincide with Pagan holidays so that they would be easier to convert to Xtianity (or something along those lines). If I remember correctly Jesus would have been a summer baby.

    • Ren -  January 10, 2015 - 1:04 pm

      Is there any intelligent atheists out there? Do your research genious! Dec 25 is day of the conception of Jesus.

      • An Athiest -  February 24, 2015 - 9:06 pm

        “Is there any intelligent atheists out there?”

        Yes there are, and judging by your spelling and grammar, you are not one of them. Come on man, spell check is built into this thing…

        • con -  April 8, 2015 - 11:26 am

          Everyday is Easter, Everyday is Christmas, I need to every day focus on God and then there will be no debating on when and where Christ was born. Everyday in every place Christ is born, crucified and risen, no beginning or ending.

          • EAH -  December 22, 2015 - 12:52 pm

            You’ve got a witness. Amen!

        • Janet -  December 29, 2015 - 7:07 pm

          good one you cannot respond so you find another way to insult. Just shows you don’t think it out. And a Atheist are not prefect. You spend time in a Christian page for what to start fights. I never go into your area but them again, I know that’s a dead end. why do you all think you know what we are and how we believe you can’t you don’t get it because you never understood or live my and others belief.

      • David -  July 20, 2015 - 4:33 pm

        So we should be celebrating his birthday somewhere around September 25th

        • Oh My -  December 2, 2015 - 12:17 am

          I do believe you are close on the date. Also, Jesus was not a new baby when the wise men came. If they got there that quick, they rode on brooms! People who have studied this time line say that he should be about 2 when they arrive. The census Joseph and Mary were in Bethlehem for didn’t happen in just a few days. I suppose I should this rant off.

          • Diviya -  December 28, 2015 - 4:03 pm

            Yeah, I totally agree with you.

      • Charlie -  November 7, 2015 - 12:16 pm

        The 25th of December IS NOT the day of conception it is birthday of Jesus who was conceived nine months before.

        • James -  November 14, 2015 - 8:58 am

          December 25th is NOT Yeshua’s (Jesus) birthday. If you’re going to be a Christian, please research all things Christian and quit being ignorant. It is thought that Yeshua was conceived about six months after John. This puts conception around the middle of December.
          The word “Christ” is the translation of the Greek word Christos, which means “Anointed one”. It comes from the Hebrew word Moshiach, from that we get the word “Messiah”.
          The Christ in Christmas doesn’t even have to mean Jesus, It means whoever the particular “anointed one” of the time was.

        • Lee -  December 1, 2015 - 8:29 pm

          If you believe the bible to be try I if Jesus was born on December 25th the shepherd’s would not have been in the hills that night they would have had their sheep in a shelter out of the weather I suppose you also believe that there were 3 wise men and they visited Christ at the stable where he was born the bible never says how many wise men just that they brought gifts of gold frankincense and myrrh and they visited him in a house

      • Derick -  December 29, 2015 - 7:40 pm

        First of all it’s not genious it’s genius Okay Genius! Secondly Are there any not is there any. If we left it up to Christians we’d still be using scrolls. An Atheist invented the computer just in case you din’t know. Don’t like it? Get off it! Bye!

    • Derick -  December 29, 2015 - 7:36 pm

      Converting Pagans over to Christianity has about the same chance as asking a Christian to think rationally. Not gonna happen.

  48. Shaun Thomas-Arnold -  December 26, 2014 - 7:58 am

    Yup, if you’re a Bible reader taking a class in Biblical Greek is a great way to discover things like this and gain a better understanding of the text. And, in my opinion, it’s a lot of fun ;-)

    • Glenn -  January 3, 2015 - 10:18 am

      I’m 63 and learning more about Archeology, I like your attitude toward learning, I plan to read those books by Homer. Wish me luck.

  49. TurningLeaves -  December 25, 2014 - 3:20 am

    Wow, and all this time I actually did think ‘Xmas’ was just a lazy modern way of slanging ‘Christmas’. I was happily mistaken, it seems!

  50. Cody -  December 24, 2014 - 2:26 pm

    To think that religion(s) can cause as much bickering, insulting and immature behaviour as this thread has, is hilarious. It is especially hilarious and even more so hypocritical, because of the supposed acceptance (etc.) they practise (more like preach).

    Incidentally, faith by definition means belief which does not at all consider evidence (therefore proof is out of the equation). As such, it isn’t something religious people should be arguing over (with others): they believe it no matter what and there isn’t evidence at all. If they would actually admit this, they could actually make things better for themselves. Ironically a religious person told me it was nothing but faith (a rare thing for them to admit that in such a way). On that note, those claiming something IS X have the burden of proving it, not those that don’t make those claims. But we just covered that, didn’t we? It isn’t based on evidence.

    Religion was always about control (of others and acceping that there are things unknown and things that we cannot control). The history books show this. Socrates and the hemlock he was forced to drink is a perfect example. Accepting? Forgiving? Other things? Nothing of the sort here, not with Socrates for sure. Yes it can happen but it certainly isn’t as much as it should be and to that it means it is preaching but not practising.

    • Elsie -  January 1, 2015 - 11:01 am

      There is proof for my faith and you are misinformed as to what a relationship with Christ is. Investigate further for the truth. Don’t go by what you,ve been told. I would suggest starting with reading “A Case for Christ” by Lee Stroble. Look for truth.

      • An Athiest -  February 24, 2015 - 9:10 pm

        Oh lordy, this is hilarious. Did you actually just tell somebody to not listen to what they’ve been told, and then immediately tell them to read a book and seek the truth? Have you had a thought of your own even once in your life, or have you always been this stupid?

        • Joe -  March 2, 2015 - 1:24 pm

          This is why I do not like comment sections, why would you write something like that, this other person is just trying to help. And yes I can’t talk about being stupid as my grammar and spelling mistakes are appauling, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be nice, could you please apologise. Thank you

      • kneegrow -  April 2, 2015 - 9:04 am

        “don’t believe everything you’re told”
        “blindly follow through faith”
        you can only pick one

      • Lee -  December 1, 2015 - 8:33 pm

        Wouldn’t it make more sense to have them read the Bible as fro not the words of a man

      • WayneMV -  December 15, 2015 - 6:19 pm

        After reading “The Case for Christ” by Lee Stroble try also reading the “The Case Against the Case for Christ” by Robert M. Price. And for each of the biblical passages Stroble cites, see what the Oxford Annotated Bible has to say about them.

        Apologists like Lee Stroble, Josh McDowell, John Ankerberg and many others are pulling a con game on people. They tend to ignore the abundance of historical and biblical scholarship that runs counter to their apologetic interests.

    • Unknown -  December 22, 2015 - 5:28 pm

      On the contrary, Cody, faith is believing in a God who has revealed himself in numerous ways in the Bible. You should read it sometime. Also, Socrates wasn’t forced to drink hemlock by Christians. That was the Athenian government who accused him of rejecting the Greek gods. You can’t stereotype all religions based upon what one religion has done.

  51. Doesnt matter who I am -  December 24, 2014 - 7:35 am

    People, religion isnt about how the name of a holiday is written out or the name of god. Religion isnt about worshiping god and hoping he will save you from your sins. Religion isnt about idol worship. Religion isnt about following holy books to their strict meanings or having people trying to interpret them and reinterpret them and have different factions arguing about whose interpretation is more correct. In fact religion isnt even necessarily about believing in god.
    What religion actually is, is a means through which some wise people long, long ago managed to infuse in us a way of life that is good for both ourselves, our family, friends and the rest of society. Holy books are only a set of stories or rules which try to guide the common man through simple language toward a more harmonic lifestyle. Interpreting them and reinterpreting them again and again to form different divisions in religion is unnecessary. What is important is that you live your life honestly, do not commit any crimes and always try to be calm and peacefully. That is the essence of most religions.
    Sadly, that is the fact we all forget and argue and spread discord about superficially important things like whether the term xmas is offensive, whether catholic church, protestant church or puritan church is better, and whether Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism and so on are more correct.
    The idea of god is only there to make you behave like a better person. Whether or not god can save from our sins, whether or not we are punished or rewarded for our actions, whether or not god exists or not, we were asked to believe in god so that we would try to live like better human beings. I am not refuting the presence or absence of god and his necessity in religion. I am just trying to point out and remind everyone the core within religion and the concept of god and that what really matters is that we live a better life.

    • Maxwell -  December 30, 2014 - 5:40 am

      After a lifetime of Bible study I have understood that the Bible is indeed a guide to living. It was refreshing to see this thought expressed in your comment. Thank you.

      • Patricia -  December 10, 2015 - 3:09 pm

        I agree with Maxwell

    • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 6:23 pm

      You see this is the thing people there should be no RELIGION. Only belief. Obviously it only starts wars fights Death. Realize That all this bullcrap about the right religion the right way to believe is pointless. So all of you Shut up stop being hypocrites understand what your saying if someone doesn’t believe what message you bring. Suck it up and MOVE ON. I’m so tired of people Saying the samething over and over again. God where is your logic. You people act like Children. I may be 12 but i know what i’m talking about. All of you Go read a book learn something new. You need to go out into the world and see what is happening. The earth id dying. And all of you have the nerve to sit here an argue about what Religion. An illusion made to confuse seperate and destroy. What have you been doing sleep walking WAKE UP. It s almost over figure out who and what you are. Because you could die tomorrow and nobody would notice people are dying everyday. Has anyone noticed How empty America is. There’s barely any of us left. Stop arguing amongst yourselves and PAY ATTENTION!

    • Kathryn -  December 24, 2015 - 12:49 am

      Thank you for thoughtful remarks in the midst of this silliness.

  52. Lorraine -  December 24, 2014 - 5:04 am

    Actually, dictionary.com has this wrong. The use of “X” dates from centuries before 1500:

    X is the Greek letter “chi”; sound /k/.

    In medieval manuscripts, several abbreviations were standard, in order to save space on the expensive writing surfaces (parchment, vellum — both of animal skins, and expensive monetarily and in the time needed to prepare the skin).

    One of these was using X (the Greek letter), along with rho (the Greek letter that has the sound /r/; it looks like a capital “P”) to substitute for Christ. The two letters were superimposed. This abbreviation maybe found throughout a manuscript-book.

    One exception on space-saving was the inclusion of the “chi-rho” page at the beginning of the Gospels. These were quite elaborate, for the glory of Christ.

    Here is the chi-rho page from the Book of Kells, an 8th-century Irish Christian manuscript:

    These articles have more information about the Book of Kells:

    (I am a librarian,with a specialty in mediaeval manuscripts.)

    • Camillus O'Byrne -  December 29, 2014 - 3:12 pm

      No, dictionary.com does not have this wrong.

      I’m afraid you haven’t shown that the word “Xmas” dates from centuries before 1500, which is what dictionary.com claimed. The website was not claiming that “chi” only came to represent “Christ” at that time. The piece is about the abbreviation “Xmas”, not the abbreviation “X” (chi) or “XP” (chi-rho) for Christ.

      For someone that is a “specialist” in manuscripts I’m surprised you managed to confuse their meaning. You do realise you sounded rather pompous?

      Merry Xmas!

    • WayneMV -  December 15, 2015 - 6:41 pm

      Not quite.

      Greek is a cased language, meaning nouns have different endings depending on how they are used. A noun used as a subject is spelled slightly differently than one used as a direct object, an indirect object, or a possessive. (Just as how in English “he”, “him” and “his” are basically forms of the same word, but used in distinct ways.)

      Christ in Greek can be Χριστος, Χριστον, Χριστου, or Χριστρω depending on how it is used in the sentence. The Greek abbreviations for Christ were ΧΣ, ΧΝ, ΧΥ, or ΧΩ with a line above.

      Chi + Rho was not generally used in Greek manuscripts but was commonly used in Latin manuscripts. The Book of Kells that you mentioned is Latin not Greek.

      The practice of using abbreviations in Greek biblical manuscripts is very old, being found even in fourth century manuscripts. So yes, long before 1500.

    • alvron -  December 21, 2014 - 7:47 am

      Oh my goodness!! what a lot of comments and interest!! Religion however one sees it, feels it, lives it, believes it, or NOT is a very personal thing and should be kept that way. There will always be a SMALL minority who abuse IT every which way . Whatever you believe , live it to the very best you can . Ultimately we are all humans built like each other. But what and how we choose to believe / live our lives is PERSONAL. The individual will have to deal with any consequences . Life is short people … be kind and happy with yours. be an inspiration.. have a wonderful Happy filled Christmas, Xmas, and Holidays with family and friends. x

      • Muriel King -  December 24, 2014 - 2:58 am

        Thank you for your insight and inspiration ‘Have a very merry chrisrmas

        • Muriel King -  December 24, 2014 - 3:02 am

          Thank you for your insight and inspiration ‘Have a very merry christrmas

      • Pagan -  June 21, 2015 - 10:22 am

        I agree that faith/religion/belief system is personal as well. However, there is quite a large group of people – not a SMALL minority as you suggest – that use the bible to prove that certain people should not have the same rights as others. Also not personal and quite public are the St. Patrick’s Day parades, Mardi Gras parades and even Christmas parades (all based in religion). People who complain about pride parades, are hypocritical as these celebrations have been going on for quite some time. I have volunteered for 42 years for different organizations. My husband and I were legally married with no deity present or required. We have raised our daughters to be loving people who also volunteer in the community because helping others is just the right thing to do.
        What a wonderful world this would be if we really did keep religion personal, did not force religious celebration on others, did not judge others by ancient ‘rules’ and were just kind to one another for the sake of being kind.

    • John W. Shreve -  December 26, 2014 - 5:10 pm

      I study the Bible and graduated from a Bible. Knowing about the “X,” I always used it as an abbreviation taking lecture notes.

  53. Ron Hyatt -  December 14, 2014 - 1:35 pm

    Do you use 2 Big FISH, with little fish to denote 2 Christian Parents and Christian Children? GUESS WHAT- Merry FISHMAS. Same thing.

  54. […] It’s a common misconception that the term “Xmas” comes from a secular attempt to remove “Christ” from “Christmas.” The term “Xmas” actually dates back to the 16th century. And you know what? The letter X is the Greek letter “chi,” the initial letter in the word Χριστός. And here’s the kicker: Χριστός means “Christ.” X has been an acceptable representation of the word “Christ” for hundreds of years. This device is known as a Christogram. The mas in Xmas is the Old English word for “mass.”  (The thought-provoking etymology of “mass” can be found here.) In the same vein, the dignified terms Xpian and Xtian have been used in place of the word “Christian.” {source} […]

    • Lorraine -  December 24, 2014 - 5:06 am

      Correct, Life Made Full.

      Though,as I explain above, it dates from centuries before 1600.

    • Dr. Chronosphere -  December 24, 2014 - 9:37 am

      I am not offended by the use of this unless whoever using it doesn’t give honor to God, which would be taking His name in vain. Most people probably don’t know what it means so they would be dishonoring God.

      • An Athiest -  February 24, 2015 - 9:17 pm

        Dang dude, you’re offended pretty easily. Merry Xmas, god aint real.

        • God fearing woman. -  December 1, 2015 - 7:18 pm

          You will find out one day God is real, and I would hate to be you when you do. So God help you and Merry CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • A. Pagan -  December 23, 2015 - 8:34 am

            My dear, do you really think your God wants anyone to operate out of fear? Because that is definitely where you sound like you are coming from. Have you ever had sexual relations for anything other than procreation?? (no answer necessary, not my business) I am just trying to make a point about hypocrisy.

          • Johny -  December 24, 2015 - 7:29 am

            When you go to heaven please send me an email so i know it’s real.

          • Me -  December 24, 2015 - 8:16 pm

            yes, exactly. God bless you :) God is my life and my all – i couldnt live without Him.

  55. RingHub -  September 24, 2014 - 1:13 pm

    X mas is just a stupid name to use for christmas. I went to buy rings for my wife and the clerk was using the word x max to me. i don’t like it at all

    • becky -  November 4, 2014 - 11:04 am

      x-mas is just a lazy way to write Christmas-

      • Michaela -  December 7, 2014 - 1:32 pm

        Umm, no. As a Christian myself, I love the use of Xmas for its wonderful church history, and for the fact the X represents both Christ Himself and the cross. Honestly, we Christians can be the worst kind of ignorant. I wish we would consider things a little more deeply before we start our self-righteous rants about things we know nothing (or, to be generous, very little) about! So, no. I am not lazy, thank you very much.

        • Linda -  December 12, 2014 - 7:54 pm

          Barre — didn’t you read the article? It’s a long-accepted term. Why are you so intent upon reading disrespect where none is intended?

          • Kanes -  December 24, 2014 - 9:53 am

            Thank you Linda! At last someone intelligent!

          • linda marie cull -  May 27, 2015 - 3:55 am

            I assure you that when a Jew writes it that way, it’s an insult. They have a distain for the word. They believe writing the word Christian gives it credence. It’s like someone saying ‘I won’t even dignify that with sn answer’ they believe in the power of words. Most christians do not know this.

        • Nora -  December 21, 2014 - 12:50 pm

          Given the church history of Xmas, I feel better and do not feel it is lazy or disrespectul.

        • Geraldo -  December 21, 2014 - 8:38 pm

          I like very much your comment.

        • D-Cristen -  December 22, 2014 - 10:54 am

          i so agree with u Michaela and i’m a christian myself and b4 i heard wat xmas really meant i was offended but now that this article has cleared it up i totally accept it though i wouldn’t write it unless i really have to. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

          One thing i don’t really understand is y Christmas is pronounced Chrismas instead of Christmas (pronouncing the ‘t’)????

          • Xyla -  December 24, 2014 - 4:46 am


          • Kelly -  December 28, 2014 - 3:33 pm

            We don’t pronounce the “t” in Christmas (generally) because all spoken language does slide toward what is easier to say. Basically we ARE lazy with spoken language. It happens in all languages, at least in all I have been around. It’s the same as saying “c’mere” instead of “come here” or “gonna” instead of “going to”. And it’s why my friend Rita rolls her eyes as everyone insists on calling her “Reeda” instead of pronouncing the “t” properly.

        • . -  December 23, 2014 - 3:38 am


        • Chery -  December 24, 2014 - 7:59 am

          If Χριστός means “Christ”, then if you want to use the X use the whole name in respect. Otherwise the X means absolutely nothing other than laziness.

        • Vince -  December 24, 2014 - 11:23 am

          way to go! I really liked your comment, merry “Xmas” :)

        • Anonymous -  December 25, 2014 - 12:29 am

          I totally agree!

        • Mr.GilMan -  December 25, 2014 - 9:06 am

          Well maybe not lazy, I don’t know you, but there’s Definately some Ignorance there on Spiritual matters. If you cannot see that substituting the name of CHRIST by placing a letter X isn’t in the spirit of the anti-christ, then all I can suggest is spending some REAL time with my Saviour JESUS CHRIST.

          • bunkyjoe -  January 4, 2015 - 4:31 am

            gman, i definitely see some ignorance in your reply. maybe the good book one should be reading is the dictionary. or, we can make a meaning for your word DEFINATELY. to further edify you on x matters. constantine, after converting to the xtian cult, thus sanctioning it with the backing of the roman empire, used the cross at the end of his signature. eventually the cross, which indicated one’ s faith and bore witness to the veracity of one’s signature. however over the years it went from the upright symbol of the cross, which looks like the letter “t” to falling over and representing the letter “x.” most people were illiterate and used the “x” as their sworn testament to their signature. so you see, “x” has more of an association with xtian history than you knew. so get off the cross, someone needs the wood.

        • Nuny -  December 26, 2014 - 10:35 am

          I agree, I love the meaning it has, and cannot help but think of when Jesus carried the cross.

        • Zoe Nightshade -  January 27, 2015 - 12:34 am


      • Kanes -  December 24, 2014 - 9:51 am

        then so are ALL abbreviations.

      • Emma -  December 30, 2014 - 8:11 am

        X definition n dictionary means to cross out, move, wipe clean, cancelled, earse ect. To each his own in using x in Christmas but know for yourself and not another.

    • A. Christian -  December 9, 2014 - 10:41 am


      • jeff -  December 24, 2014 - 10:00 am

        i heart X mas

      • Pat -  December 25, 2014 - 6:22 pm

        Yeah, ridiculous because you refuse to believe it, is all. Ignorance isn’t mandatory. You CAN let go of it.

    • maryannjones -  December 24, 2014 - 9:50 am

      I know right. I know youre being serious, but I thought your post was funny. Like, I dont care what they call it, because it is a pagan holiday. Man has made up the holiday essentially for monetary profit. Man made religions and hypocricy, nonsense everywhere can deny it they want; but The Lord commanded us to remember and honor His Son’s DEATH AND RESURRECTION..and the true meaning of the SON IN THE first place. Mary XMAS, ringhub..LOL..

  56. Christmas Controversies | The Readers Bureau -  May 13, 2014 - 7:41 am

    […] Christ out of the holiday. But what would it mean if X really an abbreviation? The truth is that X is the Greek letter “chi” and is the first letter in the word Χριστός, which means “Christ.” It’s […]

  57. Maggie Barnes -  February 13, 2014 - 12:51 pm

    I was brought up in the Lutheran (Dad’s side) and Baptist (Mom’s side) Christian churches. I believe in Christ’s teachings of loving kindness and forgiveness.

    As I grew older, I realized that the Old Testament (the Jewish Bible) and the New Testament (the Christian Bible) are totally different in philosophy, which makes them totally different religions.

    The Old Testament is filled with anger, vengeance, and retribution, and with a “jealous” God. The New Testament is filled with love, tolerance, kindness, HUMILITY, and forgiveness, and with a God of Grace. What they teach are completely opposite.

    Christ said he came to “free us from the law” – the religion of the Old Testament – and that if we truly, in our hearts AND in our actions, loved our neighbors as we loved ourselves, and we loved all of God’s creation and lived lives that demonstrated this, then we could not sin. Of course we do sin because we cannot completely live up to this ideal. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is a theme in ALL religions. We speak it and claim it, but we do not LIVE it.

    It is the same with Christianity. We speak it and claim it, but we do not LIVE it. We judge others; we speak angrily and in condemnation. We blasphemously claim to know what God “thinks” (what hubris!) and use OUR opinions of that to bash others over the head – the exact opposite of what Christ instructed us to do.

    After reading boards like this, and seeing people who call themselves Christian, I am appalled. I don’t want to lump myself in with angry, hurtful groups of people who are behaving toward others exactly the opposite way from the way the Christ instructed Christians to behave. If something is wrong, then even a group or a multitude calling it right, does not MAKE it right. You make your statement by choosing to be a part of a group/multitude like that, or not.

    Angry, hate-filled speech is not redeemed by a “blessings” or “pray for you” added on at the bottom to try to make the speech seem other than what it really is, and it does not draw people toward Christ, but actually repels good, kind, loving people away from Christ – if they think that is what His people are like.

    We need to remember and consider what picture our words and actions present to others. Christianity must not be used as an excuse to vent our own personal anger and hatred on others. If it isn’t REAL love, kindness, forgiveness, and tolerance, from deep in our hearts, AND expressed in our actions and our speech, then it is NOT Christian at all. SAYING you are Christian does not ‘make it so’ – you have to SHOW it by behaving and living like a follower of Christ’s teachings.

    Maggie Barnes

    • Darren -  August 3, 2014 - 3:44 pm

      Maggie Barnes

      When you claim that the Jewish religion is full of anger, you are preaching hate. The so-called New Testament brings with it the concept of hell, the eternal torture of people for crime of not worshiping your god.

      Jesus said “Bring the unbelievers before me and slay them.” So please stop spreading lies about Judaism, Christianity is no better.

      • Vince -  December 24, 2014 - 11:29 am

        Maggie was only stating a fact regarding the content difference between the old and new testaments, the Torah being the first five books of the OLD testament. What’s more annoying is people who isolate a completely arbitrary term or set of terms and twist them into a bastardized version of what the person INTENDED because you were to dense to conceive the entire message, or even the backbone of the message for that matter. Just to clarify, the Old Testament IS Gorey and bloody and it DOES convey a message contrary to the New Testament so take your ignorance elsewhere.

      • Daniel -  December 25, 2014 - 12:11 pm

        Darren, could you please tell me exactly where in the New Testament (book, chapter and verse) Jesus said;
        “Bring the unbelievers before me and slay them”. You’re sure you’re not confusing the New Testament with the Koran?

      • Zoe Nightshade -  January 27, 2015 - 12:36 am

        Jesus never said that. Sorry.

      • Auneste' (honesty) -  December 22, 2015 - 6:34 pm

        THANK YOU Darren!

    • Jeff -  November 7, 2014 - 6:03 pm

      The Religious Right call them teabagger’s or just Republicans. They want to rewrite the Constitution and make this a Christian Nation. Our Forefathers were all atheists and came to America to escape religious persecution. We should accept all people and all religions.

      • Ed -  December 19, 2014 - 7:29 am

        Anyone who has read the writings of our nation’s founding fathers can attest that they were not athiests, not deists, but Christian in their thought, faith and practice. I have read many of their diaries, letters and public papers, and have visited the churches they attended. They were clearly not athiests. They came to this continent so they could worship God according to the dictates of their own hearts, not in the manner dictated by the government or king.
        (I find it interesting that people often reiterate what someone else says without researching the matter themselves. Sadly, what someone else says may be biased or in error.)

        • Derick -  December 29, 2015 - 7:58 pm

          Wishful thinking but carry on.

      • Shirley -  December 22, 2014 - 11:09 am

        Jeff, you’re as dumb as a rock! Our Forefathers were not atheists. They wanted to escape religious persecution and have the right to worship as they wished, without persecution. I can’t believe we have such ignorance in this country.

      • Karen -  December 22, 2014 - 1:44 pm

        Jeff, history of our forefathers clearly documents that they were not atheists. In terms of religious affiliation, the men overwhelmingly held Protestant beliefs at the time and were members of various denominations. They were Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Congregationalist, Quaker, Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, and Dutch Reformed, but NOT one atheist. Please go back and review historical facts not fantasy.

    • Elizabeth -  December 22, 2014 - 11:41 am

      Recently completed a course in Reading the Old Testament. It was fascinating and worthwhile. Moses and Abraham et al. were extraordinary people and God shared the loving promise of salvation and the Ten Commandments.

      I am so very sorry to read of your perception.

    • Pat Irelan -  December 23, 2014 - 1:33 pm

      “Christ said he came to “free us from the law” – the religion of the Old Testament …”


      Jesus said
      ““Do not think that I have come to abolish the
      Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.”
      ["The Law" refers to the first five books of the Old Testament (also called the Pentateuch, or the Torah]

      This is Matt 5:17).

    • Mom -  December 24, 2014 - 6:09 am

      “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Matthew 5:17

    • Vanessa -  December 24, 2014 - 9:20 am

      Maggie, that is what I thought until I learned that Jesus came to die on the cross to take our punishment for our sins. That was the fulfillment of Old Testament prophey. God’s wrath was poured on Jesus instead of us. If we accept God’s bartering we won’t have to experience God’s wrath after death. Hell was meant as punishment for the devil and God wanted to rescue us after Adam’s mistake. The writers of New Testament often quoted the Old Testament. Sorry for the lengthy explanation.

    • Ana -  December 27, 2014 - 4:02 pm

      “Angry, hate-filled speech is not redeemed by a “blessings” or “pray for you” added on at the bottom”

      It is also not redeemed by the length of the rant.

      Most of the Christians and Jews I know are wonderful people.

      Blessings! :)

    • Donna -  December 29, 2014 - 8:23 pm

      The Old Testament and the New Testament are not two different religions. The Old Testament foretold the coming of Jesus Christ. The Law was given to bring people to God. Jesus Christ, Son of God, Son of Man, fulfilled the Law given on Mount Sinai. The Old and New Testaments are covenants made between God and man that God always keeps and mankind breaks. The New Testament is a continuation of the Old Testament. It is SIN that causes wars and breaking God’s covenant. Sin is rebellion against God’s laws and Israel was punished for their rebellion and lost their land and became wanderers throughout all the earth because of sin. But God’s plan is coming to fruition and soon all the prophecies will be fulfilled by Christ.

    • Ren -  January 10, 2015 - 1:28 pm

      Maggie. The OT has countless prophecy on the future and the coming of Our Lord. OT is just as much if not more important than the NT.

    • Lee -  December 1, 2015 - 8:48 pm

      Go into the world and spread the gospel and if necessary use words

  58. GrannyTenderstone -  January 12, 2014 - 8:52 pm

    Dear ” BigFatWhiteGuyInRedCoatWithWhiteBeard – January 10, 2014 – 10:07 am ”

    I DEMAND that you show me SCIENTIFIC PROOF that there is NO GOD as you claim. You can’t do it!! So stop being hateful toward those who KNOW God and get over yourself. I don’t put down your atheism or anybody elses, and DON’T INSULT OR PRACTICE THIS SORT OF BIGOTRY AGAINST the KNOWING of others. I don’t “believe”, I KNOW FOR SURE, and if you think you can prove in a lab that God doesn’t exist, HAVE AT IT. You also CANNOT PROVE IN A TESTTUBE THAT LOVE EXISTS, but you’d be considered a total idiot if you were to say so. GOD AND LOVE are the same freaking thing, but if you choose to HATE, you’ll never understand that, so I hereby BLESS YOU WITH ENLIGHTENMENT you currently lack, and you don’t have to convert to any faith at all, you just have to stop being a bigot. THAT IS ALL.

    • Cam Adair -  December 12, 2014 - 3:12 pm

      Anyone who believes in a god is an idiot. Religions were inventions by a privileged few in order to control and subjugate the poor, and let’s face it, extort from them.

      • wejiharfuisnd -  December 17, 2014 - 2:54 pm

        I wholeheartedly agree. I actually pity those who have been fooled by the misconception they call religion. Atheists see the truth. Scientists speak the truth.

        • sprat -  December 21, 2015 - 9:34 am

          Why do atheists think that science and religion are incompatible? Are you not aware that the Vatican, for example, has a giant space observatory?

      • Elizabeth -  December 22, 2014 - 11:43 am

        Cam, my heart is sad for you because you are missing such a deeper more meaningful and loving part of life.

      • G -  December 25, 2014 - 10:25 pm

        Please provide facts to substantiate your comment, thanks.

      • Ren -  January 10, 2015 - 1:47 pm

        Jesus Christ was concieved on Dec 25 and was born Sept 29.
        Yeshua .God With Us. The Living Word. In hebrew. English translation is Jesus. Your right about a lot BUT ….Mary conceived

    • Aliie Beckman -  December 21, 2014 - 8:43 pm

      You really drank that Koolaid. You are acting like such a moron.

      If you KNOW there is a God prove it. You can’t. So shut up, fuckwit.

      • m liverr -  December 23, 2014 - 10:50 pm

        Such hateful talk because of the letter x

      • Karen -  December 24, 2014 - 8:22 am

        Please consider stopping for a moment to think about whether christians and atheists alike have the right to their beliefs and to not be persecuted for them. I am a Christian, but I would never curse at you or insult your intelligence just because we do not agree with each other. This is because I believe that God gave both knowledge and free will to us and that we are truly free to make our own decisions. I also believe that we have been commanded to love each other:
        Now, whether you believe in God or not…can we not agree that the respect of knowledge, free will, and love proves to be a very positive way to live our lives in this world?
        I don’t assume atheists lack morals and kindness and I’d like to challenge you to try to stop assuming that christians lack intelligence and critical thinking skills.
        Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
        I hope your 2015 is a fullfilling and happy year.

        • Zoe Nightshade -  January 27, 2015 - 12:42 am

          Thank you for such a kind and polite comment!! Just because we disagree, and feel that we can’t agree, doesn’t mean we should insult, argue, and use rough language about each other. I heartily encourage all Christians to behave in a Christ-like manner like @Karen.

      • G -  December 25, 2014 - 10:27 pm

        Can you prove there is no God? Do you really care?

        • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:12 am

          There IS a God. You can’t prove that there is no god.

          • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:13 am

            And yes, I care about God. I care about how there should be CHRIST in Christmas, not ‘Xmas’

    • Poppa Bear -  December 23, 2014 - 2:48 am

      Please help me understand. How does you God hear and more so respond to the millions of prayers made to him?
      Does he have a call centre? I mean really!!

      • JuanRicardo -  December 23, 2014 - 9:13 am

        Not that you were serious, but perhaps this verse will help you understand.

        2 Peter 3:8 – But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

      • Anonymous -  December 25, 2014 - 12:34 am

        Because he is God. If God acted like a person and could only hear one thing at a time, then how could he be God?

      • G -  December 25, 2014 - 10:30 pm

        Do you really want to understand? If not, best you ask a logical and pragmatic question which shows your intelligence not your ignorance. Thanks.

      • Jem -  January 11, 2015 - 9:33 am

        Poppa, you should try talking to Him. He is always around, and for those who have their hearts open can be ” seen’ constantly. Life is full of little miracles, we are mostly too busy to pay attention. All the best to you..

      • Me -  December 24, 2015 - 8:23 pm

        He has a large heart though.

  59. luna -  January 11, 2014 - 9:48 pm

    ΛИD И♡Ƭ ƐѴƐŔY♡ИƐ ĪS ƇĤĪSƬĪΛИ!ᴄᴀᴜsᴇ ɪᴍ ᴘᴀɢᴀɴ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ɪs ᴀ ʀᴇʟɪɢɪon!!!NOW SHUT UP! ☥ ☧ ☪ ☫ ☬ ☭ ☯ .DEAL WITH IT

    • G -  December 25, 2014 - 10:34 pm

      You are correct – not everyone is a Christian, as not everyone is Black, White, Brown, Mexican, Portuguese, Albanian, etc.
      Adding irrelevant words that lower the bar on your assumed intellect level does not garner points. Speak CLEARLY, thanks.

  60. BigFatWhiteGuyInRedCoatWithWhiteBeard -  January 10, 2014 - 10:07 am

    You are ignorant. If there were to be a God where might he be? Why is he sitting back watching his “children” die? Why does he not intervene in the affairs of man? Is he afraid he will lose our faith? Pfft. He needs to step up and fulfil his duties and keep man from destroying themselves. And if there were a God, who knows if it isn’t a dog? Because God is dog spelled backwards….MIND=BLOWN.
    You are correct except the Santa part. My father is Santa. Because Santa is a giver, correct? My father GAVE sperm to my mother. My father GIVES child-support. I’d say that is very much like Saint Nick. Plus, he is big and has a big beard….although it isn’t white yet, it is big.


    • Shirley -  December 22, 2014 - 11:14 am

      Wow, Saphira you are one sad individual.

    • Elizabeth -  December 22, 2014 - 11:46 am

      Yes, it is difficult for us mere mortals to comprehend the vastness and greatness of a true God. Faith is required. I personally don’t have a value system where everyone must be Christian. However, a belief in an Almighty powerful and loving God – much greater than any human could ever imagine is necessary for a truly deep and meaningful life.

    • G -  December 25, 2014 - 10:38 pm

      Your bitterness toward your father (donor) is showing. Whatever issues you have with him should be dealt with by a family counselor for your own and anyone in your immediate family’s good.
      Blaming God or Santa are bad excuses. Whatever it is that your father did to you is not their fault.
      Please, seek counseling and free yourself from the ugly baggage you carry around with you.

      • Ren -  January 10, 2015 - 2:07 pm

        Sad to see such anger.

    • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:15 am

      Oh yes there is! He is watching over us in heaven!

      • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:16 am

        and How dare you say that there is no god!

  61. guidedAuspex -  January 1, 2014 - 3:13 am


    Please be joking.

    1. No one worships Santa. Santa is fictional. Most people over 10 know that.

    2. Jesus was Jewish. He was born in Jerusalem. He was not an Anglo-Saxon.

    3. Pagan is not a religion.

    4. There is no such thing as an “Ala”. There’s an “Allah”, however, which is simply the Arabic word for “God”.

    • John T. Hyde IV -  December 22, 2014 - 5:58 am

      Jesus was not born in Jerusalem … Idiot!

      • Ben -  December 24, 2014 - 9:59 am

        I’ve been watching history channel and it seems more likely he was born in Nazareth and not in Bethlehem. He was NEVER born in Jerusalem.

    • Pat Irelan -  December 23, 2014 - 1:36 pm

      Actually, “Pagan” refers to POLYtheism. pags believe in more than one god.

  62. binaryStep -  January 1, 2014 - 3:07 am

    Also, there are lots of other places that support life besides Earth. They just don’t have oxygen and stuff that we humans would need to survive.

  63. binaryStep -  January 1, 2014 - 3:06 am

    @wolf tamer and tree puncher

    You DO know “Holiday” means “Holy day”, right? So you are celebrating “Holiday” when you celebrate a holy day.

  64. Maxine -  December 28, 2013 - 9:04 pm

    Well, due to the fact that there are other people who need to be considered, you Christians should acknowledge the fact you aren’t the only religion in the world or even America. Religion shouldn’t be apart of school, unless its a history thing and it teaches about other religions too. God shouldn’t be apart of our pledge because there are many who believe in multiple Gods or none at all. Religion is something you keep at home. Having festival or something is cool, if you’re Christian be proud and show it but don’t force it on the rest of the world. You can keep the Christ in Christmas, because, Plot Twist: Jesus wasn’t even born on Christmas and there is nothing to point to that “fact” and celebrations around December were apart of cultures before Christianity even started (Gasp big surprise, Christianity wasn’t the first religion.). Keep it to your own lives, keep it out of schools and teachings and keep it out of government. (I’m not saying you can’t pray in school, or wear a cross or whatever, just don’t force others to do it.)

    • becky -  November 4, 2014 - 11:18 am

      most baby boomers know-religion was in school long long ago, we said the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of every school day, foreigners started coming over and invading our America and pushing their religions upon us and soon no baked goods in the classroom, no more Pledge of Allegiance and prayer not allowed in schools, i never used to be racist, but the bushel basket is full of rotten apples, there is so much hate in this world right now and it is turning man against man, God created Adam and Eve, and all it took was 1 temptation to turn the world bad, you know right from wrong, you make a bad choice and it affects so many. wives cheat on husbands, husbands cheat on wives, murder and mayhem, I try to keep my heart clean and clear of hate, to each his/her own, Judge not less ye be judged. stand up for each other, protect our/your/their children. so many turning a blind eye from what is right. God help us all. God Bless America.

      • Sharon Page Glendening -  December 21, 2014 - 8:22 am

        Well said! Things seems to going to hell in a hand basket! People seem to think God is there for you only when you need him for you and yours troubles then they just forget him till they need him again! God says we have free will so the choices we make about our lives is our own, so we can not blame God if it doesn’t turn out the best if we make bad choices. I do hope and pray things do get get better in the New Year!

      • Elizabeth -  December 22, 2014 - 11:48 am

        God bless you. I wish you peace in your heart. Amen and Merry Christmas to you at this time of rejoicing.

      • troll -  December 22, 2015 - 10:28 am

        I think you’ll find those foreigners coming over and invading ‘your’ America and pushing their religions on you are actually yourselves, invading the land which was occupied by native american tribes who did not worship your
        God, so you forced Christianity on them. Strange how easily people can forget whichever part of history is not to their liking.

        P.S. ‘I never used to be racist’ doesn’t make being racist okay or justified. It just means you’re simply racist.

        P.S.S. God probably didn’t approve of the invasion of America by the English, the killing of native Americans, and ‘the right of the people to keep and bear Arms’, when the 6th commandment is ‘thou shall not kill’. So I can’t believe God is too happy with America’s foundation, or it’s current state of affairs, let alone blessing ‘America’, whatever it is you think America is.

    • G -  December 25, 2014 - 11:25 pm

      “due to the fact…”
      1. that no one in the civilized world thinks Christianity is the only ‘religion’ – because it is not a religion.
      2. Considering ‘other people’ – let’s suppose you are in a country with a two-party system. You choose one because of your BELIEF.
      3. Religion is a man-made system or organization for groups of people who think/believe the same way – although even within those groups there are divergent thinkers who break away (liberal, ultra-liberal, conservative, communists, etc.
      4. Your freedom of expression and how you live are all based on the basic principles in the Bible along with other documents that helped establish the freedoms and rights we have today . You don’t have to read it, but it will give you a better understanding of how and why our country is a republic and what the tenets are that make it our foundation.
      5. “Religion is something you keep at home”. Tell that to the millions who attend bars and gambling casino ‘religiously’. Additionally, if you suggest religion be kept at home, so should sexual preference, as it also personal and as you you said “don’t force it on the rest of the world’.
      BTW, tell that to ISIS and muslim extremists who kidnap and kill young girls or their father who stone them to death or sell them to extremists. “Religion is something you keep at home”.
      6. Agree with you about December 25th – it was a Winter Solstice Festival but that is in history, you’ll need to read that if you are interested.
      7. Christians around the world would prefer to celebrate the birth of JESUS without all the commercially non-respectful ‘profiteering’ brought on by large business conglomerates ~ but then we have “free enterprise” right?
      8. How will our children know if they are not taught the Constitution and the history of our country which includes men of noble character as well as traitors, all the ancestry before us who gave their lives so this generation and any after us can reap the harvest of their investment of blood, sweat and tears and oh yes, their faith.
      9. Faith that what they were birthing would be bigger than just within their homes but something that calls millions of people today around the world to still want to come to America.
      10. And to be clear – the only force we have now is the one under the Obama regime – but that is another issue.
      11. Appreciate what you have, for once lost, you will never get it back.
      Thanks for your time.

  65. wolf tamer and tree puncher -  December 25, 2013 - 11:48 pm

    Merry Christmas/Xmas everybody, and Happy New Year! BTW, when people say “Happy Holidays” to me, I reply, “Merry Christmas.” I don’t celebrate “Holiday”–I celebrate the birth of the Risen Son of God, Jesus Christ.

    @Black Equine:
    Actually, Christianity began with the birth of Jesus, so it’s not really the oldest religion. But since it’s about 2016 years old, it’s still pretty old. (Jesus was likely born around 3 B.C.) Thank you so much for your comments! God bless you!

    We don’t really know when Jesus was born, but it was probably around springtime. But we couldn’t have it overlapping with Easter. And some early bishops or cardinals or whoever they were decided that we would celebrate on December 25, which would coincide with a pagan holiday to help introduce those people to Christianity. It’s true that Jesus Christ was not His real name–Jesus is the modern equivalent, and Christ is His title, a Greek word meaning “Savior” (the Hebrew equivalent was “Messiah”). It’s also true that the 12 apostles were His closest friends. The Bible (inspired by God) _does_ have something to say about homosexuals (look in the first chapters of Genesis, and around the middle of Leviticus. God specifically says that homosexuality is a sin). Who cares whether He was white or not? Of course He wasn’t. And, just because Christianity is a fairly new religion, doesn’t mean that it is wrong. Our forefathers did not come down from heaven or anything; God formed Adam (the first man) from the dust of the earth, and Eve (the first woman) from one of Adam’s ribs. No other place in the universe is suited to life, and even if it was, anyone coming to Earth would be dead by the time they got here because it would take so long to get to Earth.

    All these comments make me sad. I should have known this would turn into a debate about religion. :( *sigh* Oh well. I guess there’s not much I can do except pray for y’all. (Which I will certainly do!)

  66. Xian -  December 24, 2013 - 12:38 pm

    To the Atheists and the offended: I’m sorry that among the responses by Christians there is so much misdirected energy. I’m sorry if you feel barfed on; they didn’t learn that from Yeshua/Iesus/Isa/Jesus/Yesu, who, by the way, is less mythical than you may think.

    To the Christians and the offended: remember Shaul/Paulos’ letter to the ekklessia at Thessalonika: “…make it your ambition to lead a quiet life: You should mind your own business and work with your hands, just as we told you, so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.” You shouldn’t surprised by people’s offense at the Anointed One. It started as soon as he went public. He warned you that it would happen to you, too. Don’t make things worse by acting the martyr or conforming to their pattern of behavior.

    Dictionary.com is not part of a conspiracy; they’re doing business, which includes writing on interesting topics to retain readership. It’s just unfortunate that people feel the need to take everything personally and attack each other.

  67. Andreas -  December 24, 2013 - 8:07 am

    Earlier comment: Black Equine – December 23, 2013 – 11:36 am.

    (You said:) Not trying to be Politically Correct, but for all you devoted Christians who firmly believe that Christmas is all about the birth of Jesus, are you aware that Jesus Christ was a Jew, born in late Spring, not during the Winter Solstice?

    (I say:) Your comment above shows a clear ignorance of the truth; I have a simple answer to your folly and it derives straight from the Scriptures:
    {Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his work. He was the son, AS WAS THOUGHT, of Joseph son of Heli, son of Matthat, ….son of Seth, son of Adam, son of God. (Luke 23-38)}
    Pure ignorance leads to commentators such as yourself, commentators that turn God into a, (i) respecter of persons, (ii) a racist, (iii) a fool of your own intellect type and level. Remember, {for salvation – OUT OF the Judeans it is. (John 4:22)} Regarding the latter, that Jesus was born in late Spring, not during the Winter Solstice: So what if he was? Firstly, if he was, prove it with HARD and CLEAR evidence, not supposition of speech. Secondly, understand what Christ-mass is all about; the Greek «Χριστούγεννα» clearly defines the meaning of Christmas. It is not a celebration of ‘birth-day’ as we do with those who are still amongst us in the flesh. It is a celebration of the fact that he was born into the world around 2000 years ago, and through him, his crucifixion, his sacrifice, we; those that truly believe – are saved… Whether he was born on the 25th or not is neither here nor there…

    (You said:) Did you also know that in the original Scriptures of the Bible, his name was not Jesus Christ, but was Yeshua of Nazareth? He was not white, he had nothing to say against homosexuals and was followed by a group of men as his apostles.

    (I say:) What is your point? That those who are His must call Him Yeshua? Soon you will be telling us all (and this Satanic movement is already in the workings) that we must all speak to Him and praise Him in Modern Hebrew; that we must reject ‘Grace’ and put ourselves under the bondage of the ‘Law’ all over again… Grow up; God is Spirit and he knows the depths of the heart and one’s innermost secret thoughts: HE IS LOVE! Anything that falls short of this love, in action and in word – is NOT from God. Regarding the whole ‘Yeshua of Nazareth’ movement… I would under most circumstances not even address such foolishness, but, on this occasion, and for the benefit of those that know no better but want to: The New Testament was written in Greek: «Ιησούς» can be pronounced as one chooses to pronounce it in their own tongue; the Lord God is not a fool; He knows the innermost thoughts of every-one man; whether they are for Him or not, whether they praise Him or not, whether they love Him or not.

    (You said:) Christmas, as it is known today, is a commercialized version of what was originally a Pagan holiday, the Winter Solstice, which was a celebration of the re-birth of our beloved Sun (The big hydrogen-fueled star in our sky). The Winter Solstice is a welcoming of the longer, warmer days ahead. The Christian church is the rapist in this case, because they raped the Pagan beliefs and turned them into their own holiday. Both Christmas and Easter are originally Pagan holidays. This is a fact that cannot be disputed.

    (I say:) For the first 300 years roughly after Christ, the Christians were being greatly persecuted for their beliefs; by both the Romans, but also, and most importantly by the Judeans, who rejected him as their Messiah. Around 300 ad Rome took on ‘christianity’ as their national religion and for better or for worst decided that it would be wise to replace the pagan festival (in order to slowly destroy it) with the celebration of Christ and his birth into the world. It wasn’t a problem then, but is now. Why is that? Well, first and foremost they were celebrating Christ; no longer the pagan Gods. God of course knows the heart, so the ‘choice of day’ is neither here nor there. The whole concept of the tree and Santa Claus etc. came later and brought us to where we are today. What I am trying to say in short is, if someone wants to celebrate once a year the fact that Christ was born into the world, crucified for our sins, and show their thanks, then so be it: After all, it is something that the Christian Church as the One body that it is – has been doing for nearly 2000 years. If people want to replace the true meaning and intended purpose of the Christmas period with their own heathen inventions and traditions (Santa, etc.) then so be it. If people do not want to celebrate it, then so be it… Stop your whining, your own twisting of information, and your wicked lies.

    My own humble advice is: Everyday is a day dedicated unto our Lord God; a day to remember what He did for us. No day is worthier than the next; no food is cleaner than the next; no man is any less of a sinner than the next.

    We are all sinners: Some, made holy through Christ via deed that is in line with faith.

    We are all unclean, the tongue – the only source of it, and Christ the only cleanser.

    The Lord God made seven days. Not one, not two, not three, four, five, or even six: but seven; and the Lord God continues to do good throughout each and EVERY one of them.

    • JuanRicardo -  December 26, 2014 - 7:08 am

      @Andreas: “Everyday is a day dedicated unto our Lord God; a day to remember what He did for us” << it can't be said any better than that.

  68. Magda Stefan -  December 23, 2013 - 2:24 pm

    The X is for Xpistos in Greek which is Christ but i prefer using Christmas because i am proud of being a christian

  69. ej -  December 23, 2013 - 1:06 pm

    Aye, we are so affected by the age of reason. Not everything in the ancient world was to be taken literally. When those persons who made decisions about how to celebrate the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, who we believe to be the Christ-the anointed one of God, they worked to fit it into a yearly cycle. They based the cycle on Easter which is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. It corresponds with Passover per the Gospel stories.

    So how does one do this. Well they knew it took 9 months for babies to be born. Thus it needs to be far enough away not to interfere with Easter. Then there was the image from John about the light that was coming into the world. Not to mention the fact that people were already used to celebrating that time in other traditions. It was a logical thing to do and fit with the symbolism of the faith. Relax and breath. It’s okay and works.

  70. Black Equine -  December 23, 2013 - 11:36 am

    Thanatos – December 23, 2013 – 12:20 am
    Not trying to be Politically Correct, but for all you devoted Christians who firmly believe that Christmas is all about the birth of Jesus, are you aware that Jesus Christ was a Jew, born in late Spring, not during the Winter Solstice? Did you also know that in the original Scriptures of the Bible, his name was not Jesus Christ, but was Yeshua of Nazareth? He was not white, he had nothing to say against homosexuals and was followed by a group of men as his apostles
    Christmas, as it is known today, is a commercialized version of what was originally a Pagan holiday, the Winter Solstice, which was a celebration of the re-birth of our beloved Sun (The big hydrogen-fueled star in our sky). The Winter Solstice is a welcoming of the longer, warmer days ahead. The Christian church is the rapist in this case, because they raped the Pagan beliefs and turned them into their own holiday. Both Christmas and Easter are originally Pagan holidays. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. Christianity is a fairly new religion in comparison to Shamanism or Druidry, some of the original forms of Paganism.
    The Greeks and Romans had multiple Gods and Goddesses in their mythology, and a good portion of their folklore were based on things they had no easy answer for that Mother Earth has provided for us since the first day Man and/or Woman stepped foot on this Earth. I’d be more likely to believe our forefathers came from another place in the Universe than from this mystical place called Heaven.

    ^^@Thanatos, I’m not exactly sure where Christmas came from, but for us Christians we celebrate it to remember Christ’s birth.
    I can’t really think that Christianity is a new religion: hello, according to Christianity the first people were technically Christians. So, at least Christians don’t think Christianity is a new religion, because it’s the oldest & truest religion (and the only religion with some truth in it, in fact).
    Some historians say that the Bible (our holy book; God’s word, written by men who were inspired by God) fails the internal test (it is not consistent with itself). However, if you really read it and really know it, and also apply Aristotle’s Dictum, you can neither say it is unreliable nor reliable, though I believe it documents history 100% truthfully. :)

  71. Black Equine -  December 23, 2013 - 11:30 am

    For us Christians (not Mormons and stuff like that ;) ), like First Baptist Christians, we celebrate Christmas because we’re remembering Christ’s birth (although we don’t know when he really was born). We know that shepherds came to his birth that night, but the wise men actually came later.

    I don’t get why people try to take CHRIST out of CHRISTMAS.

    I also don’t get why some people believe in evolution (unless God didn’t choose them). I mean, seriously: you evolutionists believe in the saying “Well I’ll be a monkey’s uncle!” It’s supposed to mean “I’m so surprised!”. But you evolutionists believe we’re ‘evolved’ from them: therefor, the saying is much more literal for you.

    But anyways: Merry Christmas everybody! God bless!

    • wejiharfuisnd -  December 17, 2014 - 2:59 pm

      How do you not believe in evolution???? I mean there’s proof???? Are you okay??? Do you have a mental illness????? If so I’m so sorry

      • Ed -  December 19, 2014 - 7:55 am

        Proof!!?…..such as Neanderthal man, Piltdown man, Archeoptrix….all were held up for years as proof of evolution, but later all proven to be incorrect. Most were taught with a bias trying to prove evolution. Science is suppose to be about facts, observable facts, not about trying to prove one’s bias.
        Many evolutionary scientists admit they cannot explain “the spark”, that is what got it all going, what started the process. Hmm.

    • A proud LDS member -  December 22, 2014 - 12:16 am

      So what exactly is a “Mormon” if they aren’t a Christian?? Please keep your ignorant statements about things you DONT know to yourself. As an LDS member I can tell you I am VERY MUCH a CHRISTIAN. Maybe you should learn about things before opening mouth and inserting foot.

  72. Valerie -  December 23, 2013 - 7:44 am

    Regardless what you call it, Christmas is pagan in origin. That is historic. Actually it is something that shouldn’t be celebrated by Christians. The trees and the pressures to take part in the materialistic shopping and gifts is absolutely outrageous. Unfortunately people don’t usually question the rituals they take part in. If you don’t believe this, consider researching it.

  73. Ices -  December 23, 2013 - 7:38 am

    I don’t want to get in too much detail, but I’m pretty sure the reason people do not want to openly accept other religions as what people are going to believe is because it will save your life if you go through Jesus, and all other ways lead to death. It isn’t something that most people openly accept. And I know I’m going to get a lot of hate for this comment. But I love you all as my brother or sister and I hope you all are blessed this Christmas.

    *The whole “x” thing was interesting, but I still will call it Christmas, because I just love writing it out so much,”

  74. Thanatos -  December 23, 2013 - 12:20 am

    Not trying to be Politically Correct, but for all you devoted Christians who firmly believe that Christmas is all about the birth of Jesus, are you aware that Jesus Christ was a Jew, born in late Spring, not during the Winter Solstice? Did you also know that in the original Scriptures of the Bible, his name was not Jesus Christ, but was Yeshua of Nazareth? He was not white, he had nothing to say against homosexuals and was followed by a group of men as his apostles

    Christmas, as it is known today, is a commercialized version of what was originally a Pagan holiday, the Winter Solstice, which was a celebration of the re-birth of our beloved Sun (The big hydrogen-fueled star in our sky). The Winter Solstice is a welcoming of the longer, warmer days ahead. The Christian church is the rapist in this case, because they raped the Pagan beliefs and turned them into their own holiday. Both Christmas and Easter are originally Pagan holidays. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. Christianity is a fairly new religion in comparison to Shamanism or Druidry, some of the original forms of Paganism.

    The Greeks and Romans had multiple Gods and Goddesses in their mythology, and a good portion of their folklore were based on things they had no easy answer for that Mother Earth has provided for us since the first day Man and/or Woman stepped foot on this Earth. I’d be more likely to believe our forefathers came from another place in the Universe than from this mystical place called Heaven.

    • JuanRicardo -  December 23, 2014 - 9:48 am

      Speaking only for myself, I am aware Christ was a Jew and was referred to by several names. It’s been 10+ years since I studied it, but my recollection is Christ’s actual birth would have been some time in our month of September (could be wrong about that.)

      Christ’s message was fairly simple so IMHO most rituals and so forth found in the Christian church are man made and as such there is nothing wrong with challenging and debating them. Faith in Christ is a personal experience and you will find that those who are strong in their faith will not be deterred by ridicule. Leave the personal attacks out and you will also find that many Christians are willing to engage challenge and debate.

      As an afterthought, “another place in the universe” is as elusive as Heaven is mystical is it not?

  75. jane -  December 22, 2013 - 11:38 pm

    Fascinating to read this :).
    As english is not my mother tongue.. I never knew that “Xmas” is / was.. perceived as a word for non-believers. Thank you heaps for the explanation..
    And as for.. nearly all your reactions for an answer of Mr. Artiga..: I am also slightly fascinated.. :) as MANY of us know HOW MANY wars started cause of religion..

    ..sometimes I wonder.. if Jews would ever know.. would they have been kill the Jesus again..? :)..Probably..

    • sprat -  December 21, 2015 - 9:43 am

      Do you actually know how many? Because according to the Encyclopedia of War (you know, people who actual research these things instead of regurgitating information without knowing fact such as yourself) only 7% of all wars recorded since 8000BC were motivated by religion.

  76. Saphira -  December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm

    Sorry for my incorrect grammar. I am only 12 and my name isn’t Spahira, it’s a username.

  77. Saphira -  December 22, 2013 - 5:44 pm

    Logic is what is the problem with all you stupid atheists. You have no faith. Explain a fat, WHITE (Why white, not black. We count), man, in a red and white suit, with a white long curly beard, and a red sack “filled with people’s gifts”, that people call santa or chris cringle.

    Why don’t you use your blasted “logic” to explain how he is real, and Jesus cannot be? HUH??? I am waiting for an answer……………………that’s right there is non. You chose to follow, believe, and WORSHIP a fictional being made up in the Pagan religion in Europe, but you have no faith and blaspheme the Lord THINE GOD!

    He will always be Christ and EVERYONE’S God. No matter if you choose to accept it or not.

    I bet you don’t here rude things about that fictional “Ala” but no, everyone doesn’t have a problem bashing Jesus, now how about that. And Jesus wasn’t Jewish. Where did you come up with that?

    See, you cannot explain your idiot logic. Even scientists see things that prove the Bible is real. Seashells on a mountain? In genesis there was a great flood. Explain, tell me who takes the time and effort to plant seashells to prove a point?

    YEAH, THAT’S RIGHT! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY! I hope you people blaspheming Christ enjoy hell.

    • Darren -  August 3, 2014 - 3:55 pm

      Not only is your grammar incorrect, everything you said was incorrect, I am sorry you are being raised with so much misinformation and hate.

      “I hope you people blaspheming Christ enjoy hell.”

      I would suggest that if you want to represent Christians in a positive way, maybe it would be better not to openly enjoy the idea of billions of people being tortured forever. It makes you and Christianity look evil and barbaric.

    • wejiharfuisnd -  December 17, 2014 - 3:03 pm

      I’m so sorry about your mental illness! It appears to be EXTREMELY difficult for you to differentiate between right and wrong. Because of your illness, I won’t argue with you. I hope you feel well soon!

      By the way, I’m also twelve. However, since it has been a year since you commented, I hope that being older has enlightened you.

    • BiengChristian -  December 21, 2014 - 7:38 pm

      I think there is something we guys should understand . if one claims himself/herself as a Christian ,he must respect everyone and practice as what God did.Though he is Almighty,they spat on him finally crucified him.you guys(Christians) i don’t feel good to write offensive words to anyone even if you think he/she deserves too.because Love ur enemies comes first before admitting as Christian. Peace !

    • Flo -  December 24, 2014 - 5:00 pm

      Saphira, Please take a copy of what you just typed ( Dec. 22, 3013-5;44pm) and take it to your pastor or priest and have him go over it with you. It’s not about the Santa clause bit. It’s about your misconception of Jesus not being a Jew. Also, have him explain to you about the name for God in Arabic. Allah. Please do this for your own good.

    • Anonymous -  December 25, 2014 - 12:56 am

      Dearest Saphira,
      Calm down. I can understand that you are quite frustrated, but you should not be saying these things. God wants us to love the people around us. By saying these rude things, you don’t just hurt them, you turn people away from God instead of sharing them the wonderful experience of being with God, at the same time you hurt yourself. We can’t force this on people. Let them see for themselves.
      God bless you

    • ??? -  December 29, 2014 - 4:17 pm

      I’m simmering with something more than anger….
      You tell us to enjoy hell?! I’m sure no one would have told you that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Now, before you make me start typing cuss words, just calm down, say sorry, and mean it!
      Being an atheist, I am NOT stupid, so DON’T say that again.

    • Merry CHRISTmas -  December 8, 2015 - 1:19 am

      we don’t do blasphemy! Christianity is Good!

  78. Kaidy M. -  December 22, 2013 - 2:11 pm

    I’m a Christian, I’m only 14, and I live in a Christian home, all my aunts, uncles, grandparents, brothers, sisters ect are too and I’m not afraid to say that I am one. and some of these comments about God and Jesus really hurt. Some of you say ‘you couldn’t care less about Jesus’ and I don’t want to repeat what some of the other comments said.
    There IS a God and he DOES exist even if you can’t see him! one day you all have to stand before him.
    Christmas is about the birth of Jesus and I hope all of you realize this.

    • Kim C. -  December 24, 2014 - 7:10 am

      Amen Kaidy, don’t ever let anyone tell you different. Keep trusting and believing Jesus is real!!! God bless you!!!

  79. Mike -  December 22, 2013 - 6:20 am

    As a christian i find it hard to believe that the x in xmas is anything more than taking Christ out of Christmas nowadays. Although it may have begun as a much different meaning, i believe the majority of people in our world would like to see God and Jesus removed from our lives, so why should i believe differently? A few good examples would be trying to take God out of the pledge of allegiance, not allowing prayer in school, and in some schools not allowing students to wear God based clothing, yet coors light or bud light clothing is acceptable! Whether you believe in God or not, dont deny that many people would want to take Him out of our society, and furthermore if you DO believe in Jesus Christ than you should want to keep the “Christ” in Christmas as a clear-cut representation to what you believe and stand on!!! It may not matter for us whether we use xmas or Christmas but to those around us who believe ignorance is bliss we need to be a beacon of life, and the only way to do that is to have Christ present in every aspect of our lives, not just where we choose! So it should be a big deal to keep Christ in Christmas for all those who dont know the origins of “xmas”.

    • Darren -  August 3, 2014 - 4:09 pm

      “take God out of the pledge of allegiance, not allowing prayer in school, and in some schools not allowing students to wear God based clothing”

      The author of the pledge did not put god in it, that didn’t happen until the 1950s, during the McCarthy era when our government was at its most tyrannical and everyone was afraid to oppose anything. That’s also when god was put on out money. The founding fathers certainly never would have approved of such things.

      Prayer is and has always been legal in schools, saying otherwise is a lie. But government employees are not allowed to use their official positions to coerce American citizens to pray, and that is what teacher-led or group prayer in schools amounts to.

      The courts have decided that kids in school also have a right to free speech. The only ‘god-based clothing’ that can be banned are clothing that are disruptive, such as clothing that is claims that other students and their family members are doomed to burn in hell.

      • Kyle -  December 24, 2014 - 8:44 am

        “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator”

        @Darren, If the founding fathers certainly never would have approved of such things, then who is the Creator they refered to in the Declaration of Independence? Which could lead to another completely seperate argument, so I will try to stay on topic.

        Student led prayer may be legal, but Christian led prayers are strongly discouraged. My wife taught in a school that made students remove copies of the ten commandements the students had taped to their lockers, after a plaque that hung in the cafeteria for decades of the ten commandments was removed because of one parent’s legal objection, and stopped a student created and directed skit of Mercy Me’s “I can Only Imagine” because of the religious connection. Which is not a lie. Student’s individual rights to express Christian beliefs in schools is being forced out. The same school put restrictions on teachers being allowed to wear religious medallions only if they were less than 1.5 inches in size. The superintendent was placed on administrative leave for not removing a bible from his office desk.

        Merry Christmas!!

  80. Sam -  December 22, 2013 - 6:04 am

    TO: Paul Michael Artiga – Merry CHRISTmas, Happy New Year and the best of life to you! I pray that this year for Xmas, you receive the greatest Gift ever given! It can’t be bought. But you have to receive it. It is free. It was given over 2,000 years ago. But it is new for everyone who will accept it. You know what I am talking about! You have already rejected it before. He is offering it once again. All you have to do is accept it. You will become a new person.

  81. X-Mas Origin | Sammi Talk -  December 21, 2013 - 4:33 pm

    [...] mean X-Mas origin. Anyways, I was looking up a word on Dictionary.com, and it said something like The X In X-Mas. I clicked on it and found out that the X is actually the first letter of a Greek word [...]

  82. reginac7 -  December 21, 2013 - 7:11 am

    Fascinating to learn!

  83. Kamiya Akuto -  December 21, 2013 - 2:08 am

    Mr Artiga,

    I am writing this as perhaps the first atheist to comment against you on this board (on the assumption that you are also atheist, of course). First, you are by far not helping those of us who think rationally (whatever religion or non-religion they may be) with your comment. You only succeed in muddling this mess of a debate with the very same lack of evidence as those you fight against. Pray-tell, were you there to witness Mary’s “rape”? Are you a practiced historian with a degree that you can show us? If not, then your tall-tales are just as useless to me as any culture’s mythology (other than for entertainment, perhaps).

    Second, you’re clearly only angry at the religion the holiday represents, not the holiday itself. If this were any other holiday I’m sure that you would ignore it, but instead you choose to attack friend and foe alike on a topic that neither endorses nor rejects Christianity. This is merely a lesson in etymology, you know, no need to pick sides.

    And lastly, your writing skills are simply atrocious. How you come off to anyone as educated, as you are oh-so-desperately trying to demonstrate, is beyond me. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was your first visit to the site.

    To everyone else, Happy Holidays, whatever you may celebrate.

    • Kay Kay -  December 21, 2014 - 12:32 pm

      Well said….. Thank you!!!

  84. Vad spellor -  December 20, 2013 - 8:03 pm

    Im sorry i said that :(

    Lets forget about it and enjoy Christmas!!!!!!!


  85. Grace -  December 19, 2013 - 6:04 am

    I always thought that X in xmas meant variable for x because people didn’t like to write out christ in christmas but i was wrong…
    I’m glad that my hypothesis is wrong after all!

  86. Sthi Bash -  December 19, 2013 - 2:02 am

    If you have a product you need to constantly improve it so it does not disappear in the minds of the consumers…

  87. wolf tamer and tree puncher -  December 19, 2013 - 12:10 am

    @Paul Michael Artiga:
    Mary was WHAT?! Where did you get your information? And why do you appear to hate Christ? You don’t see air, but you know it’s all around you; it’s the same with Christ. It’s true that He died, but 3 days later He rose from the grave (1 Corinthians 15:3-4), and is alive in heaven today. No matter whether you believe in Him or not, Christmas is still about Him, not about gifts or family time. True, spending time with family and giving gifts are important parts of the season, but they are not the real meaning of Christmas. “For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given.” Jesus Christ is the Reason for the season. I will be praying for you to find peace in the One you have rejected this Christmas season.
    In love,
    A faithful Christian

    • Poppa Bear -  December 23, 2014 - 2:56 am

      A loving God?? Why did he send me and thousands of others to war to kill our fellow man?
      To all the historians out there, please tell me of a war that didn’t involve religion.

      Religion broke up my marriage because my children were brain washed…

      • sprat -  December 21, 2015 - 9:38 am

        Really? Tell you of “a” war that didn’t involve religion? How about the two biggest ever? World War 1 and 2. Both politically and ethnically motivated.

        Try doing some reading instead of blasting religion. For example, if you read the Encyclopedia of War, you might learn that since 8000BC, only 7% of all recorded wars were motivated by religion.

  88. kiesha -  December 18, 2013 - 4:39 pm

    to: Paul Michael Artiga.

    You’re being really immature. If you do not want to believe in Jesus then that is your choice. I will not force it on you. But, Christmas/Xmas is about Jesus. You celebrate him with your family and you can exchange presents. But Christmas is not about gifts. Not at all.

    You believe Mary was raped? Where did you get that information from? You don’t believe that. You just choose to believe in anything but Jesus so you go about believing in nonsense like that.

    Anyway, Merry Christmas.

  89. Rebecca -  December 18, 2013 - 12:35 pm

    I think that we all believe what we want to believe. Some people may believe that it is Christ some may not. We shouldn’t care what others may think. Some people my want to believe its not Christ. Its just what you what to believe in, and no one should make-fun of you. You can be right and you can be wrong. We (the people) get to pick what we what to do, and how to make Christmas or Xmas.

  90. Barack Obama -  December 18, 2013 - 10:41 am

    A very interesting topic.

  91. HIYHERO:TFNSHDOGRSFE -  December 18, 2013 - 10:39 am


  92. Wesley -  December 18, 2013 - 1:28 am

    Dear Mr. Paul Michael Artiga,

    You appear to be filled with pride and hate. May you find rest for your soul in whose name you dishonor and despise in the Lord Jesus Christ.

  93. Paul Michael Artiga -  December 17, 2013 - 4:29 am

    Xmast is all about gifts and family time
    Christ – i could careless for someone i don’t see and someone that has been dead for so long nor for a “Jew” and a story that was pass down from generation generation cause and wildly exaggerated.

    I myself a born christian but im more practical and think out side the box on this case “books” alot so share nonsense

    Here’s i mind binding for you.

    Did you know that Virgin Marry is Not a Virgin?
    She got “RAPE” and her family made this lie that she has been bless upon with a child of the all mighty, so they won’t be embarrassed of the situation the fact that her “Father” got her pregnant.

    It’s incest i tell you. More logical speaking that is.
    -that’s my real name hunt me down if you got offended ^_^
    send me emails too

  94. 7777(777 is banned i think so new name) -  December 16, 2013 - 10:47 pm

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  95. Shinenux -  December 16, 2013 - 4:52 am

    I honestly never really cared. It just meant Christmas, and after reading I’m so surprise about all the fuss people make about one simple little thing.

    • ??? -  December 29, 2014 - 4:20 pm

      Hear, hear! Agreed. So sad.

  96. Hannah -  December 16, 2013 - 4:51 am

    I write Xmas out of respect to other people’s religions, and because I am not a practicing christian, I feel a little uncomfortable saying “christ”mas. X is more of a sign that I am athiest.

  97. Fiona -  December 16, 2013 - 12:48 am

    I just thought it was a kind of variation of Criss-Cross (X) and the pronunciation of Christmas (kris-muh s), hence the abbreviation “Xmas”. That’s what I reasoned as a child and still hold onto that belief today.
    To me it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with literation.

  98. Christine Nguyen -  December 15, 2013 - 11:18 pm

    To all the people who are using the argument, “We speak English, not Greek”, do you people even understand what English is?

    English is the bastard child of a multitude of languages. We use French words, German words, words with Latin roots and words with Greek roots. We are literally a soup of different languages with variations in pronunciation and spelling here and there. Why do you think the rules of the English language are so incredibly inconsistent and evil?

    So please, get over it, because people who say Xmas really mean Christmas anyways. Christmas spirit is not measured in the words, but the sentiments behind them.

  99. Sin Jeong-hun -  December 15, 2013 - 9:58 pm

    > Jesus – December 15, 2013 – 4:33 pm

    Yes, most intelligent people know that Jesus most likely did not exist and he was just a story like that of Dionysos. But I think we do not have to abandon Christmas all together. Nobody in right mind believes Santa exists but we can enjoy the day.

    Just let your children know that Christmas is just a holiday originated from Christianity (well, Mithraism to be more precise) that people can enjoy but Christianity is not true.

  100. Ricardo -  December 15, 2013 - 6:42 pm


    If Xmas is Christ+mas,

    Shouldn’t “Chrstian” be Xian (as Christ + ian)?


    • Darren -  August 3, 2014 - 4:14 pm

      Many people do write Xtian or Xian.

    • Anonymous -  December 25, 2014 - 1:06 am

      Hahahahaha! Cool math, but Xmas came after Christmas. By the way, Xian is the pronunciation of a Chinese city.

  101. Dr. Tom Miller VI -  December 15, 2013 - 5:40 pm

    Why would you replace Christ with an “X” instead of “C”, that makes absolutely no sense. No one in their right mind would put a Greek word or letter for that fact in an english phrase. Most of the general population does not even know this. That is pretty ignorant because most people believe it is a replacement for Christ.

  102. Jesus -  December 15, 2013 - 4:33 pm

    Jesus is a lie. Stop being idiots. Christmas is a stupid ass excuse by the church to convert pagans. The fact that you get your panties in a bunch regarding some mythical fucking creature that may or may not exist. Christmas is blatant materialism manufactured by corporations. If you really believed in GAWD then you’d do something about it rather than indulge yourself. You’re not that special, get over it. Do something with your lives and aid a third world nation or educate yourselves. Religion sucks.

  103. Kendra -  December 15, 2013 - 12:44 pm

    So many of you people are just being ridiculous over this. Just because people are using xmas instead of Christmas doesn’t mean that they’re attempting to change the fundamental nature of the holiday, just that they’re lazy people typing in the language we call texting, or advertisers trying to fit a long word on a small advertisement. It. Does. Not. Matter!
    So, you people should just stop freaking out over this, and rest assured that when people say xmas, they still mean Christmas.

  104. Lori -  December 15, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    I think that it is important that we use the word “Christmas” because it is important to make it clear that we are referring to Christ. After all, He is the real reason for the season. There isn’t really anything wrong with using the word Xmas; however, it does help to disguise the Reason for the season (for those of us who are not as informed as “some guy” thinks we should be). Besides, we speak English and not Greek.

  105. Melissa -  December 15, 2013 - 12:09 pm

    In my opinion it’s pretty simple. (Algebra people would understand)
    1) X+Mas = Christ+Mas
    2) X+Mas = Christ+Mas
    -Mas -Mas
    3) X = Christ

  106. shhitsasecret -  December 15, 2013 - 11:16 am

    I thought the x in xmas was an abbreviation for Christ with regard to his sacrifice on the cross?

    • Anonymous -  December 25, 2014 - 1:07 am

      Me too >_<

    • Gali -  December 25, 2014 - 10:09 am

      that’s actually an interesting opinion