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Judgement vs. Judgment

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If you’re an avid reader, you’ve likely seen the word judgment spelled two different ways across various sources. Sometimes it appears as we have it here, and other times it appears with an e: judgement. What’s going on here, and which one is correct?

Many think that the difference between judgement and judgment is that the longer version is the British spelling, whereas the shorter one is the convention in the US. While some claim that Noah Webster first recorded the spelling of judgment in his 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language, judgment has been the prevailing spelling on both sides of the pond since the late 1600s.

Though judgement has risen and fallen in popularity in British English, judgment remains the preferred spelling in British legal proceedings and appears more frequently in written work. Today, judgement is an accepted spelling in British English, but if you stick to judgment, you won’t be judged in the UK or the US.

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207 Comments

  1. Frank -  September 30, 2016 - 9:33 am

    The first mention of “judgment” in a preview-available Google Book is in 1520. The first “judgment” is in 1548.
    The 1914 exhaustive Century Dictionary lists “judgement” as a second spelling of “judgment.” The 1966 Unabridged Random House lists only “judgment.”

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    • Frank -  September 30, 2016 - 9:34 am

      The first “judgement” is 1548. Sorry.

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  2. Sal Torregrossa -  August 16, 2016 - 8:40 am

    After spending a fair amount of time reading the article and many of the replies, I must agree with Trevor H. I spell it with the e. To me, the logic is simple. The way it was spelled originally should stay. The need to drop what is silent, just confuses things. Short cuts or slights against the British are childish. You spell the whatever the word is and add ment. Simple as that.

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  3. Trevor H. -  July 31, 2016 - 1:31 am

    I make no apology for being English and from England. I am in my mid-60s. My “judgement” is that since Webster “improved” English by overthrowing its Greek-via-Latin roots and applying a phonetic structure to spelling, we have centre and center, metre and meter, colour and color, neighbour and neighbor, and judgment and judgement – with so many more – which battle it out in the Anglophone world. There is no longer an accepted norm; one writes whatever one thinks and cannot be wrong. Webster was an egotist language vandal, and such strategies as he employed have guaranteed a plethora of irrational usages. His amendments revealed much ignorance of etymology, gave no tangible advantage for learning or understanding, added nothing to the ease or meaning of the written language, but guaranteed an endless dispute, providing an opportunity for articles galore arguing about correctness. Over centuries, our forebears had established a standard. Webster took a wrecking bar to it, as a snub to the British empire of his day, and for that, American culture praises him endlessly. Why not make engagement engagment, infringement infringment, entitlement entitlment and so on? There is huge scope for inflicting further ambiguous damage if America’s minds will only apply that revisionary fervour – or is that fervor? – to the cause.

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    • Santino C -  August 14, 2016 - 3:09 pm

      Wow could you be anymore upset over something inevitable? You can sit upon your high horses all you’d like as you sneer down at ANY LITTLE DIFFERENCE from the “perfect” English you were taught, you snide reactionary, but you can’t change progress. This is just the evolution of language, as an organism slowly evolves through the generations. You can beat your pots and pans together, crying about the decay of proper language, but you just look like an idiot. Language changes. Stop crying about it.

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    • Kate Wren -  August 19, 2016 - 2:42 pm

      Your bellicose assertion that the English language has been (to paraphrase) “ambiguously damaged by an American language vandal in order to snub the British” gives the British FAR too much credit.

      We won our independence. The assertion of separation from a despotic tyrant and the deliberate establishment of a new national identity is reflected through American English. We stuck it to the man. All other former British colonies did the same. We just did it with a bit of flair. Considering the British aversion to flair, it is understandable that our audacity to do this would “put your panties in a wad.” The nerve!

      Your words echo the sentiments of an old dog unable to learn new tricks. Hopefully the British do not treat old dogs the way Americans do: we put them out of their own misery.

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    • Peter -  August 22, 2016 - 12:15 pm

      Notice that the article says that “judgment” has been the preferred spelling in both Britain and, later, the US, since the 1600s.

      How, then, is that a change attributable to Webster and his alleged anti-British biases?

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    • Arun M. -  September 7, 2016 - 6:42 am

      Absolutely spot-on, Trevor! I applaud you for calling a spade a spade. Webster was to the English language what Trump is to politics.

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  4. AM McLeod -  July 14, 2016 - 5:25 pm

    “Judgement”, please. Else my eyes bleed and I break out in a horrible rash. Oh, and “archaeology” always with the “a”, please. That is all.

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    • Ed -  July 25, 2016 - 7:58 pm

      So, the rules of our language largely is a matter of personal preference, with regard to spelling, pronunciation, punctuation, and usage.
      How should one approach the task of teaching our children? Already, they no longer learn to write using ‘cursive’.

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  5. Tom -  June 7, 2016 - 11:06 am

    I was always taught to spell it “judgment.” Still, years later, and I partially thank WoW… I now spell it judgement almost all the time. Looks better to my eyes.

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    • Kathleen -  June 21, 2016 - 8:56 am

      Love the English language, which has so many variations and interesting accents and dialects! Not to mention the various pronunciations by speakers of English as a second language. When I was first a teacher in New Bedford, MA, my students would correct my Midwestern pronunciation during a spelling test: “She means….”

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      • Mister Reader -  September 30, 2016 - 6:46 am

        The curious thing is that the Midwestern accent–the “no accent” accent–is the one used mostly in media and is often adopted by public figures, even those who grew up speaking with a regionality.

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        • Mister Reader -  September 30, 2016 - 6:49 am

          Too late to change: “mostly” should be “most”.

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  7. Lin -  June 1, 2016 - 1:52 pm

    I have been frustrated by TV commentators (including smart, articulate Rachel Maddow) say “reportably” rather than “reportedly”.
    ALSO: people (even President Obama) say, for example, “The truth is, is that …..”. They put an extra “is” where it doesn’t belong. Has anyone else noticed this? I hear it a lot.

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    • Mr. Caneless -  June 6, 2016 - 3:11 am

      You should be proud of being more intelligent than the mentioned personalities.

      I can make your life easier. Never expect other people to be on your level but let yourself get positive surprised when they are.

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      • April Kiessling -  August 1, 2016 - 9:47 am

        Language functions differently in written and spoken forms. I would find it irritating hearing people in informal situations sound as if they were reading computer manuals.
        Whether President Obama is intelligent or his speech writers are, is another subject.

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    • Sara Nilsson -  July 21, 2016 - 7:07 am

      I have noticed that too! Stalling mechanism, similar to “um” possibly?

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      • Andrew Walters -  August 18, 2016 - 6:41 pm

        It’s likely a side effect (along with not carefully considering the grammar of what one’s saying) of the repeated “is” being correct in the situation where an identifying noun clause ending in “is” begins a sentence, such as in “who that is is still a mystery”. As a result, many people get used to the sound of the repeated “is”, and it becomes easy to over-generalize its use.

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    • Laurie -  July 28, 2016 - 12:07 pm

      I hate hearing “what it is, is, it’s a…”

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  8. Mike -  April 22, 2016 - 9:57 am

    It’s easy to speak English than to write it, people from 4 corners of the world can have a meeting and understand each other, that’s what is important.

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  9. Mike -  April 22, 2016 - 9:53 am

    It’s easy to speak English than to write it, people from 4 corners of the world can have a meeting and understand each other.

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    • Mr. Caneless -  June 6, 2016 - 3:09 am

      So we should skip the grammar and let people make their own unique spelling rules or just go with no rules?
      Hmm… imagine all the chaos and misunderstandings your solution will create.
      But i appreciate your subjective opinion about what you think is most important in this world. Its hilariously juvenile.

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      • No. -  July 19, 2016 - 3:50 am

        He didn’t say that.

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      • BigSoph -  August 12, 2016 - 5:32 am

        Mike, you wrote “It’s easy to speak English than to write it”.

        You should have written “It’s EASIER to speak English than to write it”. Though, I am guessing in some cases, writing is ‘hella hard’.

        That is, it is, all. (I being really facetious here)

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  10. Ah Pook -  April 17, 2016 - 10:31 pm

    Trolls everywhere!

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  11. Pam -  April 14, 2016 - 1:47 pm

    I took a typing test once that contained the word “judgment.” I spelled it with an “e.” Imagine my surprise when I waited a half hour for the test results only to find that I typed 85 wpm with a 99% accuracy! Judgement was incorrect. Glad to find others spell it the way I do.

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    • Gened -  May 24, 2016 - 4:53 pm

      I went to Catholic school grades 1-6 and public thereafter. Two words that were spelled different :
      Catholic
      Judgment
      Cancelled

      Public
      Judgement
      Canceled

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      • Patrick -  June 11, 2016 - 6:36 pm

        Argue to argument
        Judge to judgment

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        • Ed -  July 25, 2016 - 7:36 pm

          Ashes to ashes

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      • Andrew Walters -  August 18, 2016 - 6:46 pm

        I prefer the single-L “canceled”, due to the spoken emphasis on the first syllable, and I only use the double-L in such rare cases as “rappelled”, where the emphasis is on the second syllable. “Cancelled” may be fairly common in British English, though.

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  12. Carie -  April 2, 2016 - 8:59 am

    I clearly remember, like I remember no other school lesson, that an ‘e’ comes after the ‘g’ in judgement because it softens the ‘g’ sound.

    I can see how it can work both ways because you’d really have to work to pronounce judgment with a hard ‘g’!

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    • Mr. Caneless -  June 6, 2016 - 3:05 am

      Hello old lady. You are welcome to use a “cane” when you take a walk, but please don’t force me to walk around with it.

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      • blue -  August 22, 2016 - 5:04 pm

        It’s ridiculous how people change these words: take out an “e” out of Judgement!! Wow, now that’s going to make the word so much easier to write!!

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  13. manuel -  March 30, 2016 - 9:55 pm

    The sad part of the language evolving is that a lot of the evolution is because of the misuse of words.

    Misuse a word enough, and it will soon become acceptable, and then soon make it to the dictionary.

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    • David -  April 2, 2016 - 1:56 am

      I agree with Manuel. It is just so sad that misuse of beautiful English (with all its weird peculiarities) is permitted to become the norm. I refuse to talk about color instead of colour, thru instead of through and so on. There is a wonderful word in Afrikaans from South Africa and that word is “slapgat” which, figuratively translated means “loose bowels” and it is applied to anyone who is lazy or can’t be bothered to do things properly.

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      • C. Coleman -  April 6, 2016 - 8:12 am

        Like properly using the word “speak” instead of “talk?”

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      • Derek -  May 23, 2016 - 3:04 pm

        “Color” is actually the original spelling. Shakespeare used the “-or” spelling in honor, labor, color, and so forth. The “-our” is a Francophile innovation of the 19th century that caught on in British English. The “-or” is the original, Latinate spelling.

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        • Trevor H. -  July 31, 2016 - 1:47 am

          Yes, it was still evolving, but Shakespeare’s inconsistent 16th century useage was typical of its day and is far too distant. But in later days, a standard had been reached in most cases, which Webster et al. vandalised wholesale.. or perhaps, vandalized; an archaic “z” usage the revisers reverted to, guaranteeing there would never be an Englsh standard again. What real benefit did such revisions offer? Nothing of value. Now software speaks of US English, a contradiction in terms. And why not Australian, Canadian, even pidgin? It’s a ghastly mess and confusion reigns, in my jujmunt, hence the article to which this refers. Indede, why do we not orl invent owr own perzonal improovd inglush und jest poot it abowt til itz acseptud as normul? Grate!

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          • CasualCurt -  August 11, 2016 - 8:20 am

            Those last few sentences were amusing lol

      • evan -  May 30, 2016 - 3:00 am

        As a woman who very much enjoys reading good writing, you can imagine my vexation over the use of “conversate”, as in “We conversated over coffee.” Yes, it’s sad but true that if an incorrect word is used often enough it will eventually land in a dictionary. Pity.

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    • Sara Nilsson -  July 21, 2016 - 7:09 am

      Well said!

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    • Mister Reader -  September 30, 2016 - 6:55 am

      Yeah, before Miley Cyrus came along, “twerk” was spelt “twirk”.

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  14. B -  March 22, 2016 - 8:06 am

    I find it interesting to read so many responses filled with anger and contempt for others…one has never met! So many passing judgement or judgment based on what? English is a forever evolving language as are the people who chose to speak English. It is easy to judge. But isn’t the only thing that really matters when using a given language that we understand one another, that the words used effectively communicate with another?

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    • Omni -  April 15, 2016 - 9:21 am

      Right on! Here’s from a real genius A Einstein “The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking.” Go with the flow or talk to young people, you think judgement Vs judgment is bad, try LMAO, LOL,TTT, or XOXO. Time is changing and not to mention this “e” difference started in 1600 England/America!! Where the superior feeling comes up is beyond me. The only constant is “change” for you self-acclaimed linguist!

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  15. McBride -  February 24, 2016 - 3:57 pm

    I’m as amused/bemused/confused/bambooz(led) as you all seem to be on this one; personally I always thought it had the middle ‘e’, and I like it as a balancing fulcrum to the word, so that’s what I’ll be teaching my children.

    Or perhaps we could all settle happily on the word ‘ruling’…Or should that be ‘rooling’…oh boy…

    CUE Quantum Leap intro…

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    • Wendy -  April 2, 2016 - 6:50 am

      No doubt you’ll also be teaching your children English using “Hooked on Phonics” because you like it. God forbid anyone should try to do anything correctly. Too much effort, don’t you know. So much easier to remain ignorant.

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      • Elizabeth Smith -  July 6, 2016 - 6:54 am

        Ignorance is its own reward

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  16. andrew -  December 3, 2015 - 10:02 pm

    judgement.

    my juridical jurisprudence and common sense compels me to not speak or write any american dialect.

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    • Omni -  April 15, 2016 - 9:50 am

      Judge not, that ye be not judged.
      For with what judgment (:-)!) ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
      how about this one: you hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
      I can’t believe all this imperial arrogance for a simple “e” that’s been there since 1600. And this sour grape despise for a whole nation!!

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  17. Robert -  October 24, 2015 - 7:04 am

    In my own experience, I have definitely seen the word spelled without the e far more often than with the e.

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  18. Josh -  September 22, 2015 - 1:54 am

    I spell it judgement – always have, always will. Judge me all you want. In fact, I had never seen it spelt as “judgment” until the other day on Shmoop when reading about a series of novels I’m studying.

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    • Donna -  October 25, 2015 - 1:22 am

      It is “spelled”, not “spelt”. I think you need a refresher course in spelling.

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      • J -  November 4, 2015 - 10:12 am

        “Spelt” is properly spelled, ironically enough since we’re on a topic debating the proper spelling of a word. “Spelt” is the British and Australian variation of the word “spelled.” Perhaps it is not a spelling lesson that Josh needs, but a culture lesson that you need. If you’re going to criticize someone, be knowledgeable first.

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      • Anna -  November 25, 2015 - 2:12 pm

        Both “slept” and “spelled” are accepted forms of the past tense of spell so you can’t say “spelt” or “spelled” is wrong.

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        • Miss -  March 28, 2016 - 6:50 pm

          Slept???? Anna, please review your work before you present it. Thank you.

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        • Omni -  April 15, 2016 - 9:37 am

          Judge not, that ye be not judged.
          For with what judgment (:-)!) ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
          how about this one: you hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
          I can’t believe all this imperial arrogance for a simple “e” that’s been there since 1600.

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          • Mr. Caneless -  June 6, 2016 - 3:22 am

            Omni… it sounds to me like its you and America showing your arrogance since you think you can dictate the whole planet.
            Well, you can’t since you have no power outside USA… except when you attack countries when they got something you want.

        • Mister Reader -  September 30, 2016 - 7:07 am

          Both are pronounced differently, anyway. If one WANTS to sound out the final “t” sound–even IF grammatically incorrect–then “spelt” would be the choice to use. A point is that, especially, as long as one knows what one is doing, one is free to use whatever word choices one makes. (And I just now read the comment after the one to which I am replying. “Slept” v. “spelt”.)

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      • Gibdo -  December 3, 2015 - 7:56 pm

        I think you’ll find spelt is perfectly acceptable. I never say or write ‘spelled’ myself.

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        • LakeMD -  February 4, 2016 - 6:04 pm

          Spelt is informal, while spelled is formal. One would not use spelt in a research paper. But it is acceptable in a text/letter/email.

          judgement

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          • Penelope Fitzgerald -  February 24, 2016 - 9:20 am

            So the Doctor MD who lives by the lake asserts ‘spelt’ is not acceptable for a so-called “research paper?” He demands we must have ‘spelled.” Thank you Herr Majordomo for your learned opinion, but we think Albert Einstein might disagree. And what, in Gott’s name, ‘research’ would include the word ‘spelt’? Linguistics? Education? Witch-craft?! Plz remember, Herr Majordomo, there are other meanings of spelled. The chain-gang outside the doctor’s home, on Route 66, were spelled long enough to recover from the ruthless battering of the noonday sun! I rest my brief case.

      • Alfred -  March 7, 2016 - 2:24 pm

        I’ve also spelled it with the “e”, although if you try to follow our vernaculars rules, which is somewhat contradictory at times,you might think that the ” e” is follow when the preceding vowel is long.

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        • Alfred -  March 7, 2016 - 2:27 pm

          I do believe “spelt” is a noun referring to a grain,is it not?

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      • MARKEISHA -  May 25, 2016 - 9:46 am

        HELLO

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    • Penelope Fitzgerald -  February 24, 2016 - 8:46 am

      That’s okay, Josh, we see you have spelled ‘spelled’ ‘spelt,’ you are so ‘svelte’, and recognize your obsessive need to add the extra letter is fortified by a false pride, “always have, always will,” (again with the obsessive Donald Trump repetitions, oy vey!), so we forgive you and will hold you in neutral judgment. (Shakespearean aside: Can you imagine this guy adding unnecessary letters to his texting?! Whatupwiththat?)

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  19. Paul Lee -  June 9, 2015 - 10:43 pm

    I love Terminator 2, but everytime I see “Judgment Day” I keep thinking that the producers misspelled it.

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    • Penelope Fitzgerald -  February 24, 2016 - 9:31 am

      No, Paul, the producers did not err in the spelling of the title. They erred in producing the film with Arnold. Despite these egregious errors, we support your love for the Jolly Green Giant. (Anybody got a can-opener? I’m craving the grey peas.)

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  20. Ravichandran -  May 18, 2015 - 6:34 am

    Well, if judgment is also accepted spelling, by general rules of pronunciation, does it still sound as juhj-muh nt? Wont it sound as juhg-muh nt?

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  21. Brittany -  April 21, 2015 - 6:35 am

    judgement is never correct in my eyes unless the lord is judging me he made me and you and has every right to judge me he is my father
    amen
    <3 jai bai

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    • Trevor -  March 26, 2016 - 3:07 am

      Then you should respect Him and give Him a Capital letter in deference in order to show reverence.

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      • christopher brisson -  June 5, 2016 - 9:31 pm

        Trevor, Amen to that! ;-)

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      • Sara Nilsson -  July 21, 2016 - 7:14 am

        Amen, thank you for saying that…I was thinking the same thing!

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      • Dogonsiereht -  August 19, 2016 - 11:43 am

        Like this discussion wasn’t ridiculous enough – you guys have to bring your silly, obsolete sky-fairy superstition into it? Why not join us in the 21st century? Ignorance really is bliss, huh? Amazing….

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  22. Ian Peden -  April 12, 2015 - 12:37 pm

    You refer to “the late 1600s” in your article, Are you referring to the late 17th Century or the last years of the period 1600-1609? I would assume from the precision in your writing that you mean the latter, but need to do further research. People may say nowadays, “The Berlin Wall fell in the late 1900s” (my invented example), when the event actually occurred later than 1909 . I’ve even heard and read historians falling into the same trap.

    Good work nevertheless!

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    • Josh -  September 22, 2015 - 1:49 am

      “Late 1600s” or “late 1900s” could be referring to any time from the 1650s or 1950s onwards, not 1600-1609 or 1900-1909. It is referring to the later years of the entire century, not the first decade of that century.

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      • MARKEISHA -  May 25, 2016 - 9:47 am

        I CAN I GET IT.

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  23. caleb -  April 7, 2015 - 6:22 am

    This a cool fact, and will be taking it into consideration in my writing career

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  24. Princess Pleia -  April 5, 2015 - 10:08 pm

    Huh. Once I did test prep and my teacher (as well as the test book) said that “judgement” was incorrect. (LEL I feel brilliant)

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    • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 7:38 am

      I think it depends on the teacher. I spelled it without the “e” once, and the teacher took off two or three points for spelling.

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      • Stefano -  April 24, 2015 - 1:06 am

        You are fantastic that spend time to argue and converse your ideas upon the common words and desired promotion in this field. You are all lovely persons.

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        • Frank Casale -  April 27, 2015 - 3:54 pm

          Thank you, Stefano. I appreciate it! If I can share my experience as a student I will!
          I’ll admit, this is my first time at blogging. Usually, I converse face-to-face with people.
          I’ll also admit that my punctuation is somewhat “rusty”. But, I’m willing to accept constructive input where syntax, spelling, sentence structure, modifiers, etc., are concerned.
          I consider myself to have a fair-to-midland vocabulary, but by no means do I speak the “King’s English”.
          I blog on this web site to learn like everyone else!

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          • Steve -  August 14, 2015 - 7:25 am

            Sorry to interrupt, but I think you mean to say “fair to middling” there.

          • gregorio -  March 6, 2016 - 3:15 pm

            Steve,

            I have to correct you sir, you did not interrupt, as his post was already written and submitted by the time you posted. You could not have read Frank’s comment otherwise. Still, good effort.

          • Anon -  May 18, 2016 - 1:17 am

            Judgement got me second place in a “spelling bee” once when I could’ve gotten first place.
            They claim it was Judgment. D:
            This happened some nine years ago.

    • LarryB -  February 15, 2016 - 8:25 am

      Same here – after spending early grades in Canadian schools, I returned to U.S. Lost a spelling bee for spelling it “judgement”. Now I REALLY feel bad (55 years later).

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  25. M -  April 4, 2015 - 10:35 am

    I spell it as “judgment” because there’s a Kafka story that seems to always be translated “The Judgment” and never “The Judgement”…

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  26. Brandon -  April 3, 2015 - 1:03 pm

    In all my years on this earth I have never seen judgement spelled as judgment. To me that looks like it is pronounced “jug-ment” ///_-)

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    • Grammar Warden -  March 18, 2016 - 10:59 am

      Came to this site when another article elsewhere posted the word spelled as “judgement” so I was making sure of the spelling (too bad you can’t see the squiggly red line under the word as typed above). The spell check always corrects it and even in the King James Bible it’s spelled w/o the extra e in the middle. But to your point about the pronunciation? There is a D in the word… how could you think it would sound like “juG-ment” just because of a dropped “e”? ;-) And my “Grammar Warden” handle was given to me by my 6 children (who even had me proof their college papers). ;-)

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      • Grammar Warden -  March 18, 2016 - 11:11 am

        But, “Grammar Warden” or not, I must admit that I usually type it with the “E” in the middle first (I do think it *looks* correct as “judgement”), but spell check’s squiggly red lines always correct me, so I always fix it. ;-) Judgment. :-)

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        • MARKEISHA -  May 25, 2016 - 9:48 am

          OKAY WHY NOT.

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  27. Bill Cipher -  April 3, 2015 - 8:10 am

    It odd… Why do we waste our time on things like this? *Sighs* These unanswerable questions…

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  28. Tom Ryan -  April 2, 2015 - 6:27 pm

    One commenter’s assertion that British English is the real English is flat out wrong. English is classified as an Indo-European West Germanic language, so it travelled a lot before coming to England. But beyond that, language doesn’t belong to any one group of people. It’s a living thing which keeps changing faster than any dictionary can keep up with it, and I’d sure as hell rather go by what Twain, Dickens, Swift, et.al. wrote than what a usage pedant penned.

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    • Jim -  April 7, 2015 - 3:21 am

      @ Tom Ryan “One commenter’s assertion that British English is the real English is flat out wrong. English is classified as an Indo-European West Germanic language, so it travelled a lot before coming to England. But beyond that, language doesn’t belong to any one group of people. ”

      Er… no.

      While English may be classifed as an “Indo-European West Germanic language”, English is is indigenous to England. That’s why it’s called English.

      It arose after 1066 after the Norman-French invasion led to the Norman-French language being merged into and onto a fundmentally-Scandinavian style language.

      That’s why the English word for house is “house” and the Swedish word for house is “hus” (pronounced “hoos”) but the French word is “maison”. Its why we have “pig” for the pink animal that grunts in the field but once we put it on our plate it becomes pork (from the French “porc”).

      I appreciate the roots of Scandinavian language and latinate-French came from somewhere else but that doesn’t mean its true tthat “English travelled a lot before coming to England.” By analogy, that would be like saying that a cake came from somewhere else other than your kitchen oven because the eggs came from a chicken and the milk from a cow.

      And while the language doesn’t belong to the English, as you rightly point out, English English is the original English by which all other forms of English are judged and referred too. When we speak of the English in the USA we speak of American-English not “American”. There are other examples – Australian-English, Caribbean-English, Indian-English and so on. Or, in other words, English English is the real English, like it or not.

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      • Carolyn Robe -  January 23, 2016 - 6:48 pm

        I love the cake analogy…also:
        “How long can England maintain its cultural authority subsequent to the collapse of its Empire?”
        What is “real” and “unreal” about Chinglish, Spanglish, pidgin English…the list goes on.

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      • Kevin -  March 12, 2016 - 8:59 am

        A comprehensive and eloquent exposition.

        Ps. I am currently studying to be a Barrister and we are always told to spell ‘judgment’ and not ‘judgement’.

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      • C. Coleman -  April 6, 2016 - 8:26 am

        I disagree. At what point do the ingredients become a cake? At what point did English become English? Because languages constantly evolve, it is impossible to pinpoint the moment that a language is “correct.” We have to constantly redefine what is proper and acceptable. British English is no more “real” or “correct” than American, Australian, Caribbean English.

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    • Brett -  April 7, 2015 - 10:48 am

      In addition to your correct comments about the fluid developments of language the assertion that British English is “The Real” English are made even less tenable by studying the linguistic history of both dialects. According to my wife, who obtained a master’s degree in linguistics, American English is actually more similar to Old English then British English is because British English has changed more rapidly in recent centuries than American English has.

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  29. ElecManPoweredUp -  March 31, 2015 - 6:14 pm

    Let me see with my spell checker…

    Hm. Neither of them have a red underline. I guess they’re both right. *shrug*

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    • HitlerWasAJew -  April 6, 2015 - 5:30 am

      Wow judge isn’t only used 4 court retaaaaaardddd!!!!11!!!!1!!!one!!!!!!!!

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  30. The real grammar nazi -  March 26, 2015 - 1:11 pm

    I can’t believe that the author of this article has no sense at all….” you’ll be won’t be judged in the UK or the US.”….what is this heinous crime against grammar?

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    • Sayalee -  April 3, 2015 - 2:02 am

      We are humans and human beings make mistakes. We are NOT computers. And this is not a grammar mistake, it seems to be a typo. Don’t seek perfection in everything. We, humans, made languages, and not vice versa. So get life!!

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    • unclebuk001 -  April 3, 2015 - 9:27 am

      Was thinking the same thing as I read it. You would think a dictionary site would get it right every time….

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    • SEAN -  April 6, 2015 - 5:40 am

      I KNOW RIGHT? SERIOUSLY… And it’s still called “DICTIONARY”

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    • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 1:16 pm

      As a crime, it is offensively heinous!

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  31. Cody -  March 24, 2015 - 2:10 pm

    “While some claim that Noah Webster first recorded the spelling of judgment in his 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language, judgment has been the prevailing spelling on both sides of the pond since the late 1600s.”

    I’ve yet to see that. Give an example where British English (which is actually what English is, is it not? Americanised English isn’t) spells it without an e and I’ll reconsider (you’re correct in regards to law but aside from that, you’re wrong). In any case, words are often misspelt and it has nothing to do with where you are located and neither does the language matter.

    “Today, judgement is an accepted spelling in British English, but if you stick to judgment, you’ll be won’t be judged in the UK or the US.”

    Yes you will. Maybe not by everyone but by purists you will. Sure, the theme of judging is rather illogical because when you write judgment[1] I’ll be judging you but language isn’t logical in the first place, is it? As for your citation of years – again, spelling changes and differences occur throughout history and so frankly the year is irrelevant.

    [1]According to Oxford:
    “In British English the normal spelling in general contexts is judgement. However, the spelling judgment is conventional in legal contexts, and in North American English.”
    … which directly contradicts your gobbledegook.

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    • Austin -  March 28, 2015 - 11:28 pm

      Don’t you have better things to do?

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      • Cody -  April 2, 2015 - 5:02 pm

        That’s a really silly question, don’t you think? I largely suspect your question is rhetorical (sort of like my response is), but that’s all the more reason to answer it; indeed I don’t have better things to do. It is especially the case when I write things here. Why else would I be here? Who does this for anything but boredom? Who in their right mind would spend time in a discussion like this for something aside from boredom? I’m not in my right mind and I recognise that! Still, at least I offer some value (up to interpretation, of course). Meanwhile some here throw petty insults, write irrelevant nonsense, flame each other and show worse traits than I did when I was a teenager (and that is a scary thought, seeing as how disturbed I was [okay, maybe 'am' is correct]!). Of course, I think you fit in the former, too – perhaps a bit better than that, which I suppose is positive. In short: no, I don’t have better things to do, and that goes for responding to your (rhetorical?) question.

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        • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 12:40 pm

          On the contrary, I do believe you are sane! From reading your blogs, I would say you have heart felt feelings in your replies toward others.
          To reiterate, organize your thoughts, keep them short, simple and to the point, and you’ll be more effective to your audience.
          I have to leave, cryptograms.org awaits me. Good luck!

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        • Gorral -  April 7, 2015 - 1:38 pm

          Well said, Sir! Well said.

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    • Kieran -  April 2, 2015 - 12:47 pm

      In GB, do they spell judgmental with an e as well?

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    • Frank Casale -  April 3, 2015 - 9:31 am

      Cody, I’m trying to understand what you want to relate in your blog(s). I think the difficulty I have in understanding you, is that you “break off” in thought a lot.
      I realize you have much to say to your audience, but, Keep It Short and Simple! It is important to your readers that you are coherent!
      Nevertheless, I have read your blog and here’s my understanding of it. There are four paragraphs:
      In the first paragraph, you cite a quotation as your theme statement. What source are you citing from?
      In the second paragraph, you oversimplify ‘British English’. English is English like aspirin is aspirin. As far as spelling is concerned, judgment and judgement are both acceptable.
      Worry about the proper spelling when you encounter a ‘purist’.

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      • Frank Casale -  April 3, 2015 - 12:41 pm

        Supplemental note: Re: Judgment vs. Judgement article.
        Line 26: ‘Though judgement has risen and fallen in British English, judgment remains the preferred spelling in British legal proceedings and appears more frequently in written work’.
        My complaint is not with the spelling of the word, rather, it is the reference ‘British English’ that annoys me! It is the ENGLISH language; it is ENGLISH grammar; it is ENGLISH literature; sans the BRITISH malarkey!

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    • Alexa Penn -  April 4, 2015 - 9:08 am

      I find the years that words have come into use and changed to be quite interesting and very relevant – some people use their judgement in a very haughty manner.

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      • Frank Casale -  April 6, 2015 - 6:02 pm

        LOL! The haughtily manner in which you speak, refers to stringent English teachers and professors through out the years!

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  32. Mike -  March 22, 2015 - 11:51 pm

    Hmm, Judges make judgments and ordinary people make judgements.

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    • Ajay Awasthi -  April 6, 2015 - 12:10 am

      I think this is the only outcome of this article .

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    • Rui -  July 14, 2015 - 11:26 am

      I disagree here. Judges make judgements. Judgments are made by judgs. Now, let’s start a petition to create judg as a word of its own right!

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      • Josh -  September 22, 2015 - 2:01 am

        Or let’s not do that, @Rui, and simply ban the word judgment to save confusion and to not hurt my eyes :P

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  33. Alex Hutcheson -  March 19, 2015 - 1:11 pm

    I think judgement, because this is how I learned to spell it, and most people, even a lot of professionals spell it that way in legal documents.

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    • Grant Whitley -  March 23, 2015 - 5:06 pm

      I agree with you on that one I think we should have it spelled with an e. That is how I learned to spell it and it doesn’t look right without an e in between the g and m.

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      • olene Franklin -  February 4, 2016 - 9:48 pm

        my grandson’s middle name is judgement with you and I see it spelled a lot without the E in the middle and doesn’t look right to me there thank you also my grandson’s name is: Lycan Judgement Day.

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    • jkliuh -  October 23, 2015 - 6:25 pm

      learnt* not learned

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  34. larkin -  March 19, 2015 - 9:35 am

    how

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  35. larkin -  March 19, 2015 - 9:34 am

    hay girls hoe are you

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  36. summe -  March 19, 2015 - 2:51 am

    hate LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • larkin -  March 20, 2015 - 9:36 am

      that sucks I hate life too don’t off your self.

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  37. paradise barclay -  March 16, 2015 - 5:11 pm

    We have all missed spell words but no matter what the next person understand what you saying.

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    • alegeegee -  March 19, 2015 - 10:43 am

      Mispell surely!

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      • The real grammar nazi -  March 26, 2015 - 1:16 pm

        *misspell

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        • Cody -  April 2, 2015 - 5:11 pm

          While we’re at it… misspelt is also acceptable… But why bother? If someone spells misspelt (and others) incorrectly, you could consider either of:

          a. they made a typo, i.e. they know it is wrong but made a mistake. Yes, we all have them.
          b. none of their message matters; if they can’t even correctly spell ‘misspelt’ (and others) correctly, and they’re talking about spelling errors, does their message matter?

          (there’s also a choice c, I suppose, which is mostly a variant of a – they aren’t a good speller, for example)

          I’m extremely cynical but I largely suspect that b. does not apply.

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      • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 6:50 am

        Misspell, is most surely!

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      • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 6:52 am

        Or; Misspell most assuredly.

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    • Gwyn -  March 19, 2015 - 11:35 am

      I assume yours was deliberate?

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    • Alexa Penn -  April 4, 2015 - 9:09 am

      LOL

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  38. Kit Bradbury -  March 15, 2015 - 4:59 pm

    Whichever spelling you choose, be consistent. It will help your reader and your peace of mind.

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    • Timothy -  March 21, 2015 - 5:36 pm

      There have been some very valid points of view on the words that share this characteristic similarity of varied ways of spelling. Like cookie vs cooky not to be confused with the famously notorious family characteristic trait- kooky- like the Gomez & Morticia Addams Family (in my opinion from the original TV series, Lurch (played by Ted Cassidy) was the only sane one on the show followed by Morticia (played by Carolyn Jones).

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  39. Freida Mack -  March 15, 2015 - 9:41 am

    How about explaining how to use :
    1. On versus upon
    2. This versus this here
    Thanks!

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  40. Frank -  March 14, 2015 - 7:03 pm

    Cool so that I know which one should I say!

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  41. Therese Baldwin -  March 14, 2015 - 6:15 am

    Here’s a newly-invented quord (quirky word) I heard the other night on a popular major-network TV show: “hangry” — which was invented/used by a woman who suffers from mad mood swings, believed to be brought on (in part) by hunger. . . thus the term hungry + angry = hangry. . .

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  42. Adrian D. McFarland -  March 13, 2015 - 10:49 pm

    Informative.

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  43. john -  March 13, 2015 - 4:09 pm

    Before the vowels “e” and “i,” the letter “g” is sometimes pronounced with a “soft g” as in “general” and “engine” and sometimes with a “hard g” as in “get” and “begin.” However, it is never pronounced with a “soft g” before the vowels “a,” “o,” or “u,” nor before any consonants in any word other than “judgment.” The omission of the “e” in “judgment” on the basis of the pronunciation of the root word “judge” is simply an excuse not backed up by other words–it is inconsistent with, for example, “changeable” and “baseless,” each of which requires the “e”–and that is what “judgment” is: logically baseless. (Yeah, I know that languages including English are full of inconsistencies and illogical constructions. But that does not justify the preference for an illogical choice over a logical one.)

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    • Michele Boutwell -  October 24, 2015 - 7:03 am

      I would have to go back and check my sources, but I have read that judgement was one of 300 words that the Simplified Spelling Board considered in their attempts to save tax dollars to simplify American spellings with the support of Teddy Roosevelt and Andrew Carnegie. Judgement and acknowledgement were two of the words that were “successfully changed ” because they did not know the rule for the soft sounds of g and c and understand the necessity of the e.

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  44. Dave -  March 13, 2015 - 2:15 pm

    A source of the problem for many my be the spelling used in the very popular Geneva Bible. This English translation preceded the King James and was used widely for a hundred years or so. It was likely spelled the same in even older English translations. The word and the concept is important in the Bible, and people writing about it would be influenced by the Bible text they used.

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  45. Tino Gordon -  March 13, 2015 - 4:41 am

    Can’t recall seeing it spelt with the “e” here in the Caribbean. Thanks for the clarification though

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  46. cuthbert -  March 13, 2015 - 1:00 am

    If English people cannot inform us which is which about correct spellings, then imagine for someone English language being his/her 2nd language. Interesting or confusing cannot stretch my mind too far.

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  47. D Keith Stiver -  March 13, 2015 - 12:05 am

    I must confess having never noticed the word spelled “judgment” until recently. I was taught to spell the word with the additional e, have always done so, and will continue thus. It appears rather incomplete without the e.

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  48. Mark Erichson -  March 12, 2015 - 8:24 pm

    This was a poorly written article. It does not directly answer the title question of “judgement vs. judgment” for usage within the US.

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    • Cody -  April 2, 2015 - 5:20 pm

      Yes it does. They say to use judgment and you won’t be judged but that is if nothing else, poor spelling, and otherwise rubbish (notwithstanding legal judgments… idiocy there, but that is lawyers for you, eh?). Besides, the title doesn’t include US, does it? No, it only refers to the two different spellings and that – I’m afraid – is discussed (maybe the headline brings it up, when you click on the link, but the title of this page does not). In any case, it isn’t like the world revolves around the US and so, to state that the US has to be involved in this article is absurd.

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  49. Sal -  March 12, 2015 - 6:26 pm

    I get It!, you will , or won’t be judged for using either ..

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  50. Anthony -  March 12, 2015 - 4:39 pm

    Like Simply Steve said, almost every spellchecker will correct any use of the ‘E’. I wonder if this contributes to the prominence of ‘judgment’ over ‘judgement’, because, at least to me, the spelling ‘judgment’ makes very little sense. It’s not often you have so many consecutive consonants. In fact, it’s absolutely unusual.

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  51. Anne Williams -  March 12, 2015 - 2:52 pm

    I do read a lot but do not remember ever having seen the word judgement spelt without an ‘E’???
    Can’ stand some of the American pronunciations such as lab ra TORY etc . There is a rule about which syllable to put the emphasis on when there are four and more hence: la- BOR- a -tery!!
    If a purse is a handbag than what is a purse ? The smaller item in which we in Britain put our money and coins into and keep in our handbags.
    We also sometimes put trunks(wooden or tin) in the boot of our cars so do those across the Atlantic put trunks in their trunks?
    As for Aloom-inum, this pronunciation was the result of a mistake which happened when the first supply of Al-oo min-ium was shipped from Britain to the USA and the 2nd ‘i’ was missed out on the crate. Surely, it must have been noticed as we say Pluton- ium, Uran- ium etc etc.
    When the name of Boudicca, our Celtic queen was first seen by archeaologists, the 2nd c was mistaken for an ‘e’ Hence Boadicea. In fact, she had the same name as our Queen Victoria as that was what Boudicca meant.
    In the USA they sometimes send ‘missals’ against their enemies but we use these in Roman Catholic churches to read from and send mis-
    siles! Do they say fissal instead of fissile too?
    Routes (roots) can be taken to rout(rowt) an enemy but across the pond they take rowts to get from A to B.

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    • Mary -  March 20, 2015 - 4:19 pm

      Anne,
      I’ve always wondered why the British pronunciation of aluminum included a sound for which there was no letter – the missing second “i.”. I didn’t realize we Americans not only pronounce it differently, but spell it differently too. Thanks for the informative discourse.
      Our American missals are also books containing the Roman Catholic Mass Service, while all kinds of projectiles are pronounced the same as the books, but spelled missiles.
      We put boxes and bags and suitcases in our car trunks, while we convert old storage trunks into interesting furniture, such as coffee tables. We still call them trunks, though.

      Mary

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      • Cody -  April 2, 2015 - 5:23 pm

        You also call the bonnet the hood… and you also call the headlamp the headlights… and you also call… list goes on and on and on…. On that note, just as an aside, on the note of spelling, you also change (and this is only one word others where this is done) the S to Z, like realize instead of realise.

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    • M -  April 4, 2015 - 10:43 am

      Aside from the things Mary mentioned, most people I know say “route” as “root”. I have heard it as “rowt” a couple of times, but the vast majority of the time it’s “root”. I think some of the things you’re talking about are dialect things and/or people being uneducated (like the Bouddica thing).
      I could ask you why you say shedule but not shool or shism, and what is up with using torches, but I don’t actually have problems with that, because it seems kind of pointless to waste my energy having problems with how people on the other side of an ocean speak, especially when language is pretty arbitrary. If you learn another language, you learn just how arbitrary it is…

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  52. peter steinmeijer -  March 12, 2015 - 2:45 pm

    no rational reason to condemn “jugdment”, it just looks a little awkward

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  53. Jean MacGillis -  March 12, 2015 - 2:42 pm

    I like judgement because of the word “judge” and because the “e” keeps the “g” soft.

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  54. Ricky Forguson -  March 12, 2015 - 1:56 pm

    We get to keep the “e” with management & encouragement, but it’s taken away from us with judgment & acknowledgment!! I actually had to pause for a moment typing those last two words to stop myself from typing the “e”……

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  55. Meg -  March 12, 2015 - 1:28 pm

    Interesting comments but am I the only one who is confused by the last sentence in the third paragraph?

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  56. Bonnie -  March 12, 2015 - 12:56 pm

    “you’ll be won’t be…” is an interesting take on word usage.
    Did you run that by grammerly?

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    • McKenna Flannigan -  March 12, 2015 - 1:52 pm

      Haha that’s hilarious! I didn’t even catch that. Ironic for for a language and grammar website to make that mistake!

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    • David Blake -  March 12, 2015 - 1:56 pm

      Lol… It’s sad when these types of websites make grammatical mistakes.

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    • Timothy -  March 12, 2015 - 2:44 pm

      that seems like an improper sentence to me. can’t quite figure out what’s wrong with it. Like a tongue twister for my brain or something

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    • Aaron -  March 12, 2015 - 2:53 pm

      I saw that too. Funny to find that in a Dictionary.com article.

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    • PKK -  March 12, 2015 - 3:55 pm

      Did you run your spelling error by grammarly not grammerly…..duh People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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    • Julie Smith -  March 12, 2015 - 4:03 pm

      I noticed the typo of “you’ll be won’t be judged”. Better check your spelling.

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    • Ron -  March 12, 2015 - 9:25 pm

      “Grammerly” is an interesting take on spelling. Also, the second sentence is an interesting take on construction.

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    • Haha -  March 13, 2015 - 3:30 am

      Haha, you’re the best! I thought the exact same thing when I read it! I was like…..what? Haha

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    • Camillo -  March 13, 2015 - 3:34 am

      Right on Bonnie – very funny.

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    • nemesis -  March 14, 2015 - 10:50 am

      Dear Bonnie,
      Excellent point. You definitely made my day.

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    • Barbara -  March 15, 2015 - 8:20 am

      Grammerly had a day off.

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    • Eva -  March 15, 2015 - 1:09 pm

      HA! you noticed it too! I guess judgment is upon the writer!

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    • Cody -  April 2, 2015 - 5:32 pm

      Sheer arrogance and pure idiocy. Grammerly ? Grammerly is not a word. Neither is grammer. Neither is grammarly. Grammar, however, is a word. It is incredibly ironic you insult them over grammar (the mistake they made is fairly common and quite simple, and spelling and grammar checks are not at all 100% accurate, not even close) while you consequently use a nonexistent word….

      Of course, PKK also points this out, I see… but still, what a pathetic excuse of an insult. What a pathetic message it is, full stop.

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      • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 7:00 am

        Bonnie should pull into the “pit stop” of spelling correctness, and get back into the race!

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    • Carolyn Robe -  January 23, 2016 - 7:03 pm

      English does not have a second person plural form of the word “you”, but “you all,”"youse,”
      and “yawl” can be seen as representing the plural “you.” Now we have “you’ll,” meaning “you” in the plural. I like it.

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      • Grammar Warden -  March 18, 2016 - 8:24 pm

        Sorry, Carolyn, but *you’ll* is a contraction for *you will* ~ definitely not the plural *y’all* (I’m a Southerner). ;-)

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  57. prince opare -  March 12, 2015 - 12:22 pm

    It is only until recently that I could master spelling it without the e. But I think judgement is in order due to its root of judge.

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    • Chelle -  March 12, 2015 - 6:57 pm

      Judgement looks and feels right to me. The currently accepted spelling of the word strikes me as truncated, so I am in complete agreeance with your judgement!

      In a less O.C.D. vein, I also use the word “agreeance” whenever applicable because some people continue to insist it is not a word. *wink* I need to get out more.

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      • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 8:03 am

        I have to admit, I’ve never heard of the word ‘agreeance’. You are in complete “agreement” with some one. Words such as ‘agreeance’ are insidious. It ensnares people in the misuse of the English vocabulary.
        In short, I am not ridiculing you, Chelle. I am trying to save you major embarrassment!

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  58. joel a gordon -  March 12, 2015 - 11:56 am

    In 1951 or ’52, I was competing in the World Telegram NYC Spelling Bee. I was asked the word judgement, which is the way I spelled it. It was correct then, but where now is the World Telegram?

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    • Mekhi durant -  March 12, 2015 - 1:59 pm

      i know how to spell i know that it needs e.Im in 4# grade my teacher is mrs.Huffman,and she can teach.

      mekhi

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  59. KR Bookworm -  March 12, 2015 - 11:56 am

    Really?…lol I’ve always hated this word because I could never get the spelling. Good to know both are technically “right”

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  60. Mary -  March 12, 2015 - 11:41 am

    This is really interesting to me. Thank you for the post!

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  61. Marisa -  March 12, 2015 - 11:37 am

    Muy interesante

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  62. anonymous bibliophile -  March 11, 2015 - 10:31 pm

    Very helpful and informative. Thanks.

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  63. DAYA SHANKAR -  March 11, 2015 - 8:22 am

    I CONFUSE ENGLISH

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    • Barbara -  March 15, 2015 - 8:21 am

      with what?

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  64. Khong Ming -  March 10, 2015 - 9:26 pm

    In Malaysia ‘judgement’ seems the preferred form even though Malaysians are very lax about sticking to English or American spelling forms – you will find ‘color’ and ‘programme’ in the same writing!

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  65. Lawrence J -  March 10, 2015 - 5:24 pm

    but if you stick to judgment, you’ll be won’t be judged in the UK or the US.
    ????

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    • SUZAN WRIGHT -  March 15, 2015 - 4:32 pm

      What’s confusing to you?

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    • Nour -  March 19, 2015 - 8:07 am

      Yes Lawrence J, lol! There must have been a mistake.
      From the context, you understand that it’s :” …, you won’t be judged in the UK or the US” :)

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  66. Simply Steve -  March 10, 2015 - 8:18 am

    Almost every spell check I’ve used corrects me if I try to use the “e”.

    “G” is supposed pronounced as “j” only if followed by an “e” or “i.” In this case, why is it when it’s not followed by either of the two?

    English is sometimes weird, on both sides of “the pond” no less!

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    • Languistics -  March 10, 2015 - 11:42 am

      Well, I never heard ‘get’ being pronounced /d͡ʒɛt/.

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      • Chelle -  March 12, 2015 - 7:16 pm

        Steve, I believe the issue you’re having here is one of basic logic. “Supposed [to]” is not the same as “must always.”

        This is not a criticism of you or your opinion, I have long been a strong believer that graduating high school should require an absolute minimum of one year of Logic. Logic is the science of reasoning, which in part reduces statements to very simple math-like equations which either do or do not hold up under a clearly defined set of rules.

        It’s not as dry as it sounds. It’s actually fun.

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        • Frank Casale -  April 8, 2015 - 9:01 am

          “How to properly use a credit card” would perhaps be one variant course in logic.

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    • Pritam chandra -  March 11, 2015 - 9:01 pm

      Then, i hope the poem ‘english is tough’ is a must read for u..steve..
      The wide pecuilarity of english is clearly potrayed…

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    • Zoie -  March 12, 2015 - 8:19 am

      Zoie

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    • Lou Dube -  March 12, 2015 - 11:59 am

      What do you mean, sometimes. Thing of all the “ough” cases.
      “you’ll be won’t be judged ” ?

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    • Warren Tiplady -  March 12, 2015 - 12:55 pm

      Many anomalous spellings of common English words are really governed by the various incursions of the various English language dialects. E.g., Honour v. honor, behaviour v. behavior, councillor v. counciler, counsel(l)er, etc. And, yes … it can all be very confusing indeed. But, mainly, it (correct spelling) depends upon where one is; geographically.

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      • Mariana -  March 12, 2015 - 3:29 pm

        Actually, nowadays, the spelling depends much more on the auto-correct app installed…=)

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      • Chelle -  March 12, 2015 - 7:21 pm

        I find myself mixing British and/or Australian spellings into my American English writing as more and more of my online (actually online gaming–don’t judge) friends influence me.

        Rhetorical question: Do you think this mixing of forms and perhaps even languages is going to increase over time? I do.

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        • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 7:17 am

          Good question, Chelle. I agree with you also the ‘mixing of forms and perhaps even languages’ will increase over this time of globalization.

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          • Frank Casale -  April 7, 2015 - 1:02 pm

            Let me clean that sentence up: I also agree with you on the “mixing of forms and perhaps even languages’ during this time of globalization.

      • Cody -  March 24, 2015 - 2:37 pm

        No. If someone comes up with a discovery… or they are bestowed with the gift of naming a new species (etc.), then they define the spelling. To then change it means the new spelling is wrong. The fact is, in your example specifically, Noah Webster is directly responsible for removing the u from honour (and honour is correct) and similar. He’s also responsible for these crimes (among others):

        - catalog (should be catalogue)
        - center/theater (should be centre/theatre)
        - offense/defense (should be offence/defence)
        - (big one) realize/criticize (should be realise/criticise)
        - (as already discussed) color/humor/etc. i.e. removed the u (u should be there)

        The most ironic one of the several words that he didn’t succeed in changing. Specifically he wanted tongue to be tung. As far as I remember, he also wanted women to be wimmen. Yes, America’s hero lexicographer at his finest.

        Equally correct, however, is that if the US invents something (I’ll refrain from suggesting any thing) and therefore specifies the spelling, then that spelling is correct. Indeed, when a word derives from another language then it is understandable there will be changes. There’s other similar scenarios that are understandable and acceptable (perhaps including language evolving but humor instead of humour isn’t language evolving). But to take the spelling of a word and change it because you don’t like the original spelling, is idiotic (language exists to communicate; why would you want to add more confusion? There’s not enough is there?).

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        • Frank Casale -  April 5, 2015 - 5:32 pm

          Cody, I wish you good luck in your future endeavor as a lexicographer and linguist.

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