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This July 4th weekend, as you hear the calefaction of comestibles, consider the names of those items you are about to eat.

Brace yourself for the short and disputed history of the “hot dog.”

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, people commonly believed that the thin sausages contained dog meat. This particularly gruesome coinage started on American college campuses in the late 19th century, according to hot-dog historian Bruce Kraig.

The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council suggests the phrase, in part, might have slightly more innocent inspiration. In the mid-19th century, German immigrant butchers in the United States began selling variations of sausages, some of which were thin and long, like the dog breed dachshund. They called these dachshund sausages. Over time, the phrase may have been bastardized into “hot dog.”

Two other words for hot dogs — frankfurters and wieners — raise an unsettled debate about where the food originated. The former is named for Frankfurt, Germany; the latter, for Vienna, Austria (wiener is the German adjective that means “of Vienna). Even the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council says this argument is too hard to pin down.

And in case, you’re wondering: Non-kosher hot dogs do not contain dog. They have pork in them, whereas kosher hot dogs have no pork and are likely to contain beef, chicken, or turkey. No dog meat there, either.

The word “hamburger” also owes its origins to a German city — in this case, Hamburg. Food historians believe that around the same time sausage-makers were refining their meat products, cooks in Hamburg served up a cooked version of steak tartare. For awhile, the dish was known in English as “hamburger steak.”

If you’re a vegetarian, fear not. We have a word to barbecue for you, too. Throw a tofu burger on the grill and keep this is mind: “tofu” comes from Chinese, by way of Japanese, meaning “rotten bean.”

132 Comments

  1. wolf tamer and iron miner -  March 9, 2014 - 4:50 am

    There’s a National Hot Dog & Sausage Council?! Cool! ;)

    Stop criticizing wILLIam, you Grammar Nazis. I know this is a dictionary website, and he maybe should have checked the definition of “bastard,” but still…

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  2. Go ThunderClan -  November 21, 2013 - 9:25 pm

    I came here to look something up and now I forgot what it was. These comments always distract me. :-) Dictionary.com’s blog is my Facebook. Thank you, Dictionary.com, for helping me find a way to spend an hour on the Internet.

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  3. Go ThunderClan -  November 21, 2013 - 9:21 pm

    Hot dogs are yummy. My writing teacher once was talking about other words you can use instead of “like” because it’s so overused, and one of them was “relish.” He said, “I can’t relish a hot dog without relish.” :-) I like my hot dogs with just ketchup (and plenty of it.).

    I like hamburgers more than hot dogs. I like them hot and juicy, with melted cheddar cheese, fresh lettuce, crispy bacon, lots of ketchup, and maybe even a pretzel bun. :-D Mmmm…

    I never knew there were hot dog historians. So, are there pizza historians too? :-P

    @wILLIam:
    If you speak English as a 2nd language, you may ignore this comment. You are excused. If English is your 1st language: Does LDay mean “Lord’s Day”? And if so, what in StarClan does that have to do with hot dogs? You’ve got some nerve posting a comment riddled with spelling and grammar errors on a dictionary website. There’s spell check for a reason. You are only human, and allowances could be made for a couple typos, but 12 grammar errors and half a dozen spelling mistakes?! Maybe you should spend more time learning how to write correct English. This is not a video game chat box, nor is it a texting forum.

    @Liz:
    I agree. Sounds gross. Who could ever eat tofu again? Bleh.

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  4. Will -  April 5, 2012 - 1:42 am

    Why is everyone talking about William’s comment?
    This is an article about Hot-Dogs, HOT-DOGS, dude!
    The world is hopeless…

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  5. Liz -  April 4, 2012 - 3:05 pm

    ‘Rotten bean’… that’s lovely.

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  6. anonymous -  October 19, 2011 - 5:31 am

    i think its funny that almost every comment has something wrong with it.

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  7. Andrew -  October 16, 2011 - 3:20 am

    Anyone know of the origin of “red hots?” That’s what hot dog vendors used to shout at baseball games… “Red hots! Get your red hots heeeeeerrrre!” Perhaps it just sounded better than “hot dogs?”

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  8. Ophelia -  October 15, 2011 - 7:01 pm

    Hey guys, this is an article about the etymology of “hot dog”. Who cares about what one guy said and how he said it.

    Regardless, I don’t have an appetite for hot dogs right now…maybe it was because of the comment that said some workers slip in human parts into the grinder.

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  9. qwerty -  October 15, 2011 - 11:49 am

    Hangonimcomin, why would you bother doing this if you really think it’s all “blah blah blah”? And “w31rd0″ and some others, be aware you’re doing it too.

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  10. qwerty -  October 15, 2011 - 11:40 am

    And by the way, some people who commented really shouldn’t bother. They might as well be chatting on a video game.

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  11. qwerty -  October 15, 2011 - 11:36 am

    Jeffrey, I don’t think William could be 8 if he knows what bastard means at all, and no offense, but nobody cares if you’ve done studies on the lord’s day, whatever it is. Although I agree with Jeffrey on one point, are you aware a whole several pages have been used on someone who commented over a year ago? William hasn’t even commented again.

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  12. Catherine -  October 15, 2011 - 11:33 am

    I hope all of you who criticized William are this discerning outside of blogging. It seems like less and less people have opinions and/or criticism about things that really matter like political standpoints.

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  13. Eeffoo -  October 15, 2011 - 2:07 am

    Well, isn’t that amazing, wILLIam! When I first read your comment I thought the Lday must mean the Lord’s day. It’s because I do a lot of Precept’s inductive Bible studies and we have often done a study on the Lord’s day.

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  14. Jeffrey Chen -  October 15, 2011 - 1:10 am

    Oh and also give old Willy a break alright? Maybe he is just eight, and I think the real losers are you people who aren’t mature enough to ignore his comment and instead focus on his every little mistake.

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  15. Jeffrey Chen -  October 15, 2011 - 1:06 am

    I speak Chinese and tofu does NOT mean rotten-bean. The Chinese word tofu is pronounced Do-Phoo (豆腐) and it means “bean-fermented”. There is only a variety of tofu that actually stinks, an Asian equivalent of blue cheese, called Chouw Do Phoo (臭豆腐), or Stinky-Tofu

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  16. Ian -  October 14, 2011 - 2:17 pm

    Why is eating dog “particularly gruesome” when compared to eating any other animal? I suppose Dictionary.com bloggers are aiming their writing at a mostly North-American audience, but this website is accessed by English-users all over the world. Certain world cultures forego eating beef, pork, seafood and other common American meats. Other cultures eat things which Americans avoid, for example, insects, snakes, rodents and, yes, dogs.

    Because people eat such a wide range of animal products, you can only really describe any one of them as “particularly gruesome” from a limited cultural perspective.

    (For the record, I don’t eat a lot of meat on a daily basis, but I have tried dog, as well as other foods that are uncommon in North America.)

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  17. Guest -  October 13, 2011 - 11:02 pm

    Actually very funny comments; I’m surprised how much effort you guys put into it – especially the long-post holier-than-thou types. Keep it up, it’s funny!

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  18. zach -  July 5, 2011 - 9:22 am

    anyone ever hear of william the bastard? later known as william the conqueror, led the norman conquest of england and secured victory at the battle of hastings in 1066. this william guy and his “bastard” comment made me think of it. i wonder if he’s ever heard this?

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  19. Katie J -  February 16, 2011 - 12:21 pm

    There are hot dog historians?

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  20. megan is awesome -  October 23, 2010 - 7:23 pm

    @ Shaylaa Yo what is rule 14?

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  21. megan is awesome -  October 23, 2010 - 7:22 pm

    Almost 50 of the comments on here are either attacking or defending William. I wonder if that was intentional on his part? if it was, dude you win but even so what was the point of it, and whether or not it was, epic fail to everyone else for letting it bother you. The article was really interesting though. i never knew why they were called hot dogs, i guess i never really thought about it.

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  22. Alexandrië van Dijk -  October 22, 2010 - 9:44 am

    =] *Proceeds to display Vulcan sign*

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  23. Jerry -  October 21, 2010 - 8:35 am

    @bcullen
    Except for those of us that are CYLONS!

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  24. bcullen -  October 20, 2010 - 4:06 pm

    Nobody is perfect, we are all humans

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  25. blahblahblah -  October 20, 2010 - 2:21 pm

    Woooooooooooooooow i’m soooooooooooooooooooo bored that im reading all these comments.im actually supposed to be getting help with homework,but i got bored soooo…

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  26. ShaylaaYo -  October 20, 2010 - 1:28 pm

    I’m not sure if this is the type of blog where you guys are aware of this rule, but you need to look up rule 14.

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  27. Steve -  October 20, 2010 - 12:44 pm

    Wow, I came to look something up and now I can’t remember what it was. But, I have to agree with the sentiment that, if you can’t look at an article online without getting worked into a self-righteous frenzy over someone else’s spelling or grammar, maybe you shouldn’t venture online. Here’s something to look up: compassion.

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  28. Lora Lea -  October 20, 2010 - 10:58 am

    I thought his use of “LDay” meant Labor Day, another time when many folks enjoy hot dogs and hamburgers.

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  29. Alexandrië van Dijk -  October 20, 2010 - 10:43 am

    Also, in continuation of my last thought;

    My friends constantly hound me about why I “talk weird”. I suppose I should also inquire as to what they do, while I am having intellectual conversations over the modern implications of philanthropy. They are out getting drunk, smoking hallucinogens, and getting fourteen year old girls pregnant. =] I play World of Warcraft, and watch television. However, I also pride myself on not being one of my teenage peers who throw beer bottles at an elderly woman, rather than wasting their precious five minutes, to help her pick up the rake she dropped.

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  30. Rofllmao -  October 15, 2010 - 4:50 pm

    The comments are more interesting than the article, courtesy of william

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  31. WOW -  October 15, 2010 - 2:35 pm

    I would like to know what LDay is.

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  32. Ricardo R. Cabeza -  October 15, 2010 - 12:30 pm

    William likes to make Werewolf movies.

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  33. Kate -  October 15, 2010 - 10:58 am

    Really people.

    Are we going to fritter our time boorishly criticizing someone who might have merely hit ‘Submit’ before checking over typos?

    Honestly.
    ~Kate

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  34. Vivi -  October 15, 2010 - 10:45 am

    I can’t believe there’s actually a National Hot Dog and Sausage Council..

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  35. Derek Williams -  October 15, 2010 - 3:48 am

    @ Sheryl Brown on July 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I’d very much like to endorse Sheryl Brown’s comment above. I abhor argumentum ad hominem attacks on an individual attempting to initiate or contribute to a discussion. It’s also fascinating that so many posts attacking William’s writing skills were themselves littered with solecisms of their own.

    In one’s hurry to type into an edit field, it is all to easy to overlook typos before hitting Submit. Unfortunately it is not possible subsequently to edit posts to this page so if an error does appear, the only solution is to post a correction further down the page.

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  36. James -  October 15, 2010 - 2:20 am

    So…this is a website about accurate use of the English language…and the author of the article thinks it is permissible to write “for awhile,” and, possibly even worse, is not chided therefor?

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  37. faust666 -  October 15, 2010 - 1:22 am

    This thread is made of win.

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  38. Devin -  October 11, 2010 - 6:17 am

    Wow why so mean to one person for what he belifes and everthing

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  39. ms.karma -  October 11, 2010 - 2:03 am

    nice! people here are so nice! i mean, they’re so nice they’re next to mean. it’s not right to act like that towards wILLIam. nobody’s perfect. if you believe you are, start casting stones.

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  40. G -  October 10, 2010 - 7:01 pm

    @Sheryl Brown:

    I have worked with cognitive disabled people, at least they would try to read before commenting. wiLLiam is just plain ignorant.

    You need a reality check.

    G

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  41. Jenn -  October 10, 2010 - 6:51 pm

    Wow!!! I agree with Niki. Making fun of someone because they don’t have perfect spelling common have some morals please! Who cares I think that some of the things that William said were interesting, and even if I didn’t think so I still wouldn’t make fun of him. If you don’t want to hear someone’s opinion don’t read their post!!!

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  42. ororomunroe531 -  October 10, 2010 - 3:29 pm

    Um… Isn’t ‘Lday’ one of the terms for Latter Day Saints?

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  43. Kate -  October 10, 2010 - 2:25 pm

    Another thought~

    To “ppl” such as W31RDO and jJ1CF41L, woot and Louis (although his comment was extremely accurate and well worded-minis the curse words) You people are offensive, disrespectful barbarians to the world of spelling first of all, and second, knowledge. Have you not ever heard of the wise, yet blunt term: “If you cannot say something nice, do not bother to speak at all.”?

    ~Kate

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  44. Kate -  October 10, 2010 - 2:10 pm

    I realize how long it has been since the ‘spell check controversy’, but I strongly advise against the way we are using the ‘Comment Link’. It’s ridiculous. I highly doubt that the owner of this website’s intention was for us to use such inappropriate language and such a stupid argument on the link about hot dogs and hamburgers. Get real. However, if wILLIam
    Is an 11 year old posting ignorantly on a website where he should only be if he were checking definitions on his research paper, I stand corrected, and would like to believe that he would steer clear of websites where “Grown-Ups” use such language in the most ridiculous ways until the preferred age.

    Just a thought,
    ~Kate

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  45. Lee -  October 10, 2010 - 1:30 pm

    Yes, wILLIam made a comment that was admittedly not well thought out, but that does not mean that everyone that reads it needs to comment on it. Just as you can not judge a book bby its cover, you can not judge a person by one comment. wILLIam may have had his own reasons for posting this, which we do not know about. It has never hurt anyone to be considerate of another’s feelings. I believe that in today’s society, there are too many people who criticize and not enough people that are polite and encouraging. Not to say that there are not any, but recently they seem few and far between. I ask that if you disagree with my views, could you please do it in a polite and non-offensive manner? Thank you for your courtesy.

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  46. Diana -  October 10, 2010 - 11:46 am

    William!
    sorry…had to add to the William freak-out.

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  47. Michelle -  October 10, 2010 - 11:01 am

    So funny. But don´t be mean to wILLIam, he ´s only but human like all of us.And instead of spending your time commenting about the mistakes of others comment about the article.

    I personally did like the article. Learned something new today.And I will keep eating hot dogs and hamburgers I don´t care what they are made of they are still good.

    Oh and something else if I made a mistake that´s ok, I am human.

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  48. Jackson -  October 10, 2010 - 6:27 am

    I think William is having the last laugh on most of you and was being ironic/sarcastic and actually rather amusing! These pompous pedants blogging and sneering need to come up with an original idea themselves or get a life!

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  49. raven -  October 10, 2010 - 12:06 am

    Oh My what crazy comments, I love it. I wanted to know about the damm HotDog and I got so much more. Hey WiLLIam, your great man,,
    just spell check when doing anything.

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  50. Peace-by-Piece -  October 9, 2010 - 4:26 pm

    I love reading these blogs everyday! I always learn strange things I have questions about! :D

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  51. MichaelWH -  October 8, 2010 - 9:47 pm

    Eliort: You do not make tofu (豆腐) by “fermenting soya beans”. There is zero fermentation involved in making tofu, in fact. Tofu is coagulated, not fermented. It starts life as soy milk which has chemicals like calcium sulphate, magnesium chloride or calcium chloride (salts, in other words) added to bind the proteins together into a solid mass. (GDL–an acid–can be used for so-called “silken” tofus.)

    There are fermented tofus, mind, but these are not the norm. There’s the Chinese “pickled tofu” (腐乳) for example or the infamous “stinky tofu” (臭豆腐). Note that both of these are fermented *AFTER* the production of tofu, not as part of the production.

    Tempeh, which is not a tofu, is fermented soya beans, mind.

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  52. Eliort -  September 6, 2010 - 8:33 pm

    … The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council? Wow.

    I’m finding the German immigrant story a bit strange. I thought Germans call Dachshunds ‘Dackel’? So if anything I thought they’d call the dackel dogs.

    Dachshund literally means ‘badger hound’, a dog that is bred for hunting badgers, and I had heard the name was totally an American or British invention. I might TOTALLY be wrong though!

    And tofu means ‘fermented beans’, because that’s how you make it; by fermenting soya beans.

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  53. Warwick -  September 6, 2010 - 6:36 pm

    To those who would waste time putting down wiLLiam:

    May I suggest that there is something in life far more important than IQ, grammatical aptitude, spelling prowess and turn of phrase; and you have dismally failed to demonstrate it.

    It’s called FOCUS. Gain a sense of focus, and the unwarranted anxiety you are displaying will melt away. You will wonder (as have most of us, I am sure) what led you to channel so much energy into a rant that was so pointless, let alone heartless.

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  54. Silverchild -  September 6, 2010 - 11:49 am

    Someone else may have mentioned it -I can’t read all 80 comments-, but I thought that hot dog was named like that because the sausage looks like the penis of a dog with erection.

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  55. Louis -  September 3, 2010 - 1:40 pm

    To the people defending wILLIam, I don’t believe that he is foreigner who has little grasp on the English language, because anyone knows that 7 exclamation points and random capitalized letters are unnecessary in any given language.

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  56. Louis -  September 3, 2010 - 1:35 pm

    wILLIam, you are a blundering idiot. Your post is riddled with spelling errors and inappropriate punctuation marks on a website that deals specifically with the English language.
    And to everybody else discussing the word “bastardize,” I don’t believe there is anything wrong with “curse” words. They’re just words of frustration that most adults use. The idea that someone past the age of 25 could possibly be deeply upset by a sound that comes out of somebody’s mouth is ridiculous. It’s almost as if the people who are offended by the words haven’t themselves ever said the words, which can’t possibly be the case. The level of B.S. that adults deal with in the real world far outweighs having to witness public usage of the F-word, for instance. I don’t know why people complain. And if anyone sees this paragraph I just wrote and feels the need to type up a witty rebuttle… F*ck you. (:

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  57. Guest -  September 3, 2010 - 12:29 pm

    Great Blog. The comments were amazing.

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  58. Pete Bogs -  August 26, 2010 - 6:59 am

    Some Asian versions of the hot dog have actual dog in them.

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  59. woot -  August 1, 2010 - 6:09 pm

    get lost, william.

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  60. W31RD0 -  July 18, 2010 - 2:37 am

    YOU PEOPLE ARE GEEKS Y DON’T YOU GET A LIFE>>> MAN! TALKING ON A DICTIONARY!!!! ARE YOU USUALL? AND WHY DO YOU ALL START PICKING ON wILLIam RATHER THAN RESPONDING TO THE ARTICLE?

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  61. wILLIam -  July 13, 2010 - 5:57 am

    cheerio… i certaily know we are both quite different to most other people on this blog… least we know we whats going on… what state are you from cheerio

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  62. Cheerio -  July 9, 2010 - 1:37 am

    @wILLIam
    Hey you have it again!!
    SOME peope don’t seem to like this! Sorry bout that!! haha!!

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  63. wILLIam -  July 8, 2010 - 8:59 pm

    i dont think people really need too now… we should get back the subject… sausages or something is it???

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  64. DHHSL -  July 8, 2010 - 4:56 pm

    What does Lday have to do with the Lord?

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  65. Sara -  July 7, 2010 - 7:45 am

    seriously, people leave wILLIam alone!!!

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  66. #3|P M3 !M |0$+ -  July 7, 2010 - 2:37 am

    AHH! Beauty!!

    They’ve appeared again!!!

    Thanks for that!

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  67. Jho -  July 7, 2010 - 1:57 am

    It seems that the conversation has gone too far from the topic?

    can you guys be so modest to treat others better?

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  68. wILLIam -  July 7, 2010 - 1:13 am

    great minds think alike dont they cheerio!

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  69. Cheerio -  July 6, 2010 - 8:19 pm

    @ wILLIam
    yeppers… I reckon you have it!!
    Cheerio!

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  70. Anthony -  July 6, 2010 - 7:42 pm

    Magda,

    Cute story!

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  71. wILLIam -  July 6, 2010 - 6:39 pm

    @Cherrio:
    people should be thinking of the Lord a bit more shouldn’t they!!!!
    0x wILLIam

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  72. Magda -  July 6, 2010 - 1:42 pm

    Just for fun. After I taught my children how hamburgers are named, one day we were going out to eat. I asked, “Do you want to get Chinese or Mexican?” My son said, “German! Let’s get hamburgers.”

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  73. Cheerio -  July 6, 2010 - 5:00 am

    Hi guys!!
    This blog is totally crazy!!! hahahaha…..
    I also reckon you should sorta leave wILLIam alone a bit cause it’s not that bad a blog!! At least he is trying to make it interesting! As if you guys would know if he had a problem or not… just because he doesn’t spell right doesn’t mean he has a problem!

    @ wILLIam…. I know what you mean by Lday even if no one else does! hahaha… magine calling it the “Learning Disabilities Association of Yukon” if only they knew… they would probably bite their tongues!!
    Cheerio..xo

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  74. hangonimcomin -  July 6, 2010 - 1:17 am

    hmmmmmmm… who is a little bo-red round here??? blah blah blah

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  75. mismatch -  July 5, 2010 - 6:28 pm

    FANCY THAT!!…and I always thought hotdogs and hamburgers and McDonalds were all classed as American!…well I suppose America is still responsible for the ‘bastardizing’ of good food into ‘junk’ food!!

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  76. Kool -  July 5, 2010 - 3:50 pm

    i mean really the word “bastardize” who uses that?

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  77. MaNdErZ -  July 5, 2010 - 3:48 pm

    All I have to say is wooooooow.

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  78. c shore -  July 5, 2010 - 2:22 pm

    My cousin’s last name is Wiener. His family had a dachshund they named Oscar Mayer (last name Wiener), and family gatherings are “Wiener roasts.” Who knows where their name came from–I didn’t know they were Viennese.

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  79. grace -  July 5, 2010 - 1:18 pm

    Oops, got so worked up over all these comments that I sent you all somewhere else.

    Now what was I talking about…

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  80. grace -  July 5, 2010 - 1:11 pm

    Oh my, and all I did was click a link.

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  81. Pat Pepper -  July 5, 2010 - 11:14 am

    It’s interesting to note that different places all lay claim to the hot dog sausage. As the article mentions, in the USA, both “frankfurter” and “wiener” are used. In the UK, “frankfurter” is very commonly used, but not really “wiener”. Meanwhile, in France, they acknowledge the western side of the Rhine – they always call hot dog sausages “saucisses de Strasbourg”.

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  82. Michael -  July 5, 2010 - 11:00 am

    for those who are getting on “wiLLiam’s” case… look. let the ignorant be ignorant. they’re like zombies, they’re just gonna keep on coming. plus, we’ve all had our idiot moments in our lives. we’re all human beings. try leaving a more useful comment like educational or peaceful fact the people can learn from.

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  83. Bedazz'elle -  July 5, 2010 - 9:02 am

    Ewww hot dogs and hamburger’s are GROSS. So are tofu burger’s, eww! I prefer this :: Throw PORTABELLA MUSHROOMS on the grill and put it on crispy bread with roasted oinions and peppers and melted asiago cheese.. YUM

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  84. Kevin -  July 5, 2010 - 7:34 am

    I remember a few years ago Europe was pushing for geographically accurate food labels. You could only call it Parmesan if it came from Parma, you could only call it Champagne if it came from Champagne. Per this logic, you can only call it a Hamburger if it’s made from citizens of Hamburg. Maybe that last one is what derailed the effort.

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  85. Kurt Cannon -  July 5, 2010 - 4:40 am

    There are few food items that approach the simple great taste of a slightly charred hot dog with Gulden’s mustard and onions. A potato or whole wheat roll enhance the experience. Go one ste further and grill a kielbasa on the grill and we are talking heaven.

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  86. Shannon -  July 4, 2010 - 7:10 pm

    thomas walton, you use the word “nerd” seemingly in a derogatory manner. You know that might actually offend some of us.

    And it seems that for every article I’ve seen on the Hot Word Blog, there is always someone who makes a really stupid comment and/or spelling and grammar mistakes. Then, everyone hones in on this person, picking them clean like a band of vultures. Although I have to say, I don’t particularly like these people, this comment space is to talk about the article, not to repeatedly say, in many different ways, how horrible they perceive them to be.

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  87. Woj -  July 3, 2010 - 7:48 pm

    The word ‘bastard’ is most certainly not a synonym for a male dog. I do not know, nor care, why you claim it to be so, Mr Tovey, but perhaps you should recheck your sources when you try to make a point. You could not find your desired meaning because it does not exist.

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  88. THE GUY -  July 3, 2010 - 7:19 pm

    YO guys just calm down. William probably just wanted attention. This article is here so people can learn about the origin of hot-dogs and hamburgers and you guys are just fighting with one another….

    By the way are you guys still gonna eat hot-dogs and hamburgers after this?

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  89. taoistelf -  July 3, 2010 - 7:17 pm

    I LOVE this website! When asked what my most frequented website is, it is Dictionary.com, of course. Dorky… well, maybe. But it is the riotous comments like above that make me realize that if it is indeed dorky, I am in some hysterical company.

    And while Ms. Brown’s point is taken, it is a nice to have a site where we actually aspire to use spell check. It is… well… damn annoying to muddle through the two-fingered texting that is becoming standard.

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  90. lilthang -  July 3, 2010 - 6:34 pm

    I totally agree with LittleMissLee, it was very misleading and thanks to my misunderstanding I clicked and read the article to see what it was, simply out of curiosity. Oh well either way I learned something today. Have a good day everyone. ^^

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  91. Anthony -  July 3, 2010 - 6:01 pm

    wILLIam, to funny. =)

    I expected a more in depth history; sometimes things are just to simple. I love those “weiner dogs”!

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  92. Amber -  July 3, 2010 - 5:22 pm

    You guys should leave wILLIam alone. This is a very interesting article, but everyone seems to pay more attention to one persons ignorant comment. We all know that the comment was a little strange, but the insults are not needed. It would be a lot nicer to discuss how you will talk about hot dogs tomorrow with friends and family. I am pretty sure I will share this information with everyone. Have a happy Independence Day Everyone!

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  93. Sasstufrasseleshun -  July 3, 2010 - 4:44 pm

    All of this is really much ado about nothing. All of you please get lives. If you speak and write English well, then, good for you; you probably worked hard in school and continue to strive to be top of your game. If you stink in speaking and spelling (like so many of you do), then good for you, too; you deserve your ignorance and stupidity and make it up by posting demeaning comments just to sound tough. Who cares about the etymology of the word, “hotdog”? Does knowing where it came from make a difference in its taste or nutritional benefit to mankind?

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  94. thomas walton -  July 3, 2010 - 3:53 pm

    william missread a word and made a human mistake! maybe if you folks had a life and had something real to think about you would not have had time to read or make fun of him! i was looking up a word and came across these blogs! get a life! sometimes ignorance comes from having a life being invited to parties or getting laid or anything fun’ instead of spending your loser life on the computer looking to attack someone that came on in between doing cool stuff in the real world! leave william alone and get a life! please make fun of me and show me that you have nothing better to do on a saturday night than be online! by the way, when i log off i am going to get ready for a party that i was invited to! Get a life nerds!

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  95. Andrew -  July 3, 2010 - 3:36 pm

    WOW…. There are a lot of mean spirited people out there. I wonder how many of you have never made a mistake or said anything that was inaccurate before. Look at your own issues first. Some of you are really brave on the internet aren’t you!

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  96. LEatpm -  July 3, 2010 - 3:13 pm

    Wow…These people have nothing else better to do than criticize other people’s spelling and grammar. They must feel very proud of their ego destroying intellect. (tsk…tsk…tsk).

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  97. Nikki -  July 3, 2010 - 2:35 pm

    Wow! you guys suck! How rude is it to talk down to someone, or assume they have a learning disability! Instead of judging people and making fun of them on line, why don’t you head down to your local library and donate your time helping those of us who are not able to so quickly grasp the spelling, and grammar of the english language.

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  98. Mike -  July 3, 2010 - 2:32 pm

    Learning Disabilities Association of Yukon (LDAY)

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  99. d3vi0us -  July 3, 2010 - 2:26 pm

    Ah, Mr. Tovey and Ms. Brown, your attempts at making yourselves seem intelligent have failed. Mr. Tovey, your the first (and hopefully last) to spread false rumors about a words definition on a dictionary website. And Ms. Brown, you should go teach a class on crap nobody cares about…It seems to be your calling.

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  100. LittleMissLee -  July 3, 2010 - 2:03 pm

    And this is a little misleading! I thought the origin was going to be really disgusting or something! LOL!

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  101. LittleMissLee -  July 3, 2010 - 2:02 pm

    wILLIam, I just cracked up laughing at your comment!!! And yeah, I always wondered about the origin of the term “hot dog”, but I sorta guessed it came from slang-naming it after the dachshund dog breed because of length and width of hot dogs. And the hamburgers coming from Hamburg would be correct. Anybody can sort of guess where it comes from if they just give it a little thought.

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  102. Leeza -  July 3, 2010 - 1:49 pm

    Why do I want the true story to be the one about rumored dog meat? Haha!
    @Mitch McCrimmon re: “hamlet = ham for rent” cracked me up!
    And to chide the author of the article, there shouldn’t be a comma between “Just in case” and “you’re wondering” in the kosher vs non-kosher paragraph. Just sayin’. ;)

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  103. Anna Gee -  July 3, 2010 - 1:28 pm

    The very bottom line about Hotdogs and Hamburgers is that they are BOTH ground up meat. And whomever is at the grinding machine is the one who decides what gets ground up and packaged. I have known workers to laugh about sneakily submitting human parts and domestic pet parts and numerous other things into the grinder. You would never be able to tell the difference. That is why I quit eating those things more than 30 years ago. Bon Appetite !

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  104. Umlud -  July 3, 2010 - 12:24 pm

    I did a search for “L day” and found that it could refer to the date of the amphibious invasion of Okinawa (April 1, 1945). However, the date (April 1) doesn’t seem to have much to do with either US Independence Day (July 4) or when wILLIam posted his comment (July 2, or July 3 if he happened to be in a different time zone).

    I suppose people (if they felt bothered enough) could look at significant events taking place on July 2, 3, and 4 by checking at Wikipedia. Needless to say, I didn’t find anything that was obviously an “L-Day” on these days… (Let alone anything having to do with hotdogs or hamburgers.)

    @Mitch McCrimmon: I find looking up words or phrases on “World Wide Words” is usually quite a treat. The guy did an entry on “hamburger” a while ago, and is also (imho, and with nothing against Hot Word Blog) worth a read: http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/burgers.htm

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  105. Sheryl Brown -  July 3, 2010 - 12:10 pm

    Really good reasons for poor spelling and grammar include the following:

    -Learning disabilities or the like (e.g., hearing loss)
    -English not being one’s first language
    -Poor lighting and/or hasty texting with or without the added influence of the use of substances, with or without adequate sleep.

    The first two reasons take a fair investment of time and coaching to correct or improve. Then I lumped together several circumstantial reasons that could easily be remedied.

    None of these reasons should preclude someone from joining in on a discussion (the latter situations at least affording us a chuckle). You won’t learn or improve without practice. And none of these reasons warrant insults either. It is highly disrespectful to harangue someone for a learning disability, or to chide someone from another country who is striving to learn English. English is a real challenge to learn, especially spelling.

    Try putting yourself in the other person’s place as someone learning to improve their English. At least he or she is reading… which is one good way to learn better English.

    I am acutely aware of the very basic (or less than basic) level I have in Greek, Hebrew, French, German, Spanish, Tagalog, and Balangao, to name a few (!) and know I must sound quite primitive (and less than intelligent) in my attempts to put together some phrases. However, most people hearing me attempt some communication are at the least hospitable!

    Remember, any very intelligent person may often be quite fluent and comprehensible when speaking, but could appear much less so when being “read.”

    Words to the wise ;D

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  106. Melissa -  July 3, 2010 - 11:46 am

    This is only “gross” in light of the relatively recent taboos regarding dogs as a food source.

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  107. JfromI -  July 3, 2010 - 11:14 am

    Wow. These posts seem to have degenerated into a free-for-all on one guy. Yes, yes, wILLIam made horrible use of the English language, and just reading his post makes me a bit nauseous. But all of you basically said the same thing in a dozen different ways. Posting and re-posting, “You’re an idiot, wILLIam,” is completely useless. If your post is nothing but cynical disgust thinly veiled as an informative lecture, wILLIam may pick up on this and completely disregard all of you as a**holes. You’re not helping anyone by being so mean and sarcastic. You’re just making yourselves feel like you’re smarter/better than someone else. Good job.

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  108. Dave -  July 3, 2010 - 10:56 am

    Seriously — this is the best you all could do, flaming each other in the wee hours of a Saturday morning on dictionary.com? Have you NOTHING resembling a life, or is this simply what nerds do for weekend fun? What a pack of losers…

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  109. Alex -  July 3, 2010 - 10:31 am

    Alright guys, lets give old Willy a break here. Yes, he did leave a post with terrible grammar and spelling, and yes, he does not seem to know how top use a hyperlink, but your reactions to this were very exaggerated and, in some cases, just plain mean. Please be a little more mindful about what you say in the future.

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  110. sprode -  July 3, 2010 - 9:59 am

    You can always thank foreign influence for some good ole “American” staple.

    Hey, we’ve given the world Britney Spears, Sarah Palin, Paris Hilton, Jersey Shore, etc, etc, etc…

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  111. Ed -  July 3, 2010 - 9:58 am

    I’m thinking we might give William the benefit of the doubt. He might speak English as a second language, as evidenced by his phrasing to “check it up” rather than to “check it out.”

    If he’s a foreigner, then he can’t be blamed for his English.

    If he’s not, he needs to educate himself, or take solace in the fact that millions of high-school graduates are less competent than he is with English.

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  112. Mati -  July 3, 2010 - 8:16 am

    wILLIam: LDAY seems to stand for the Learning Disabilities Association of the Yukon. Perhaps, that is why you didn’t understand the word bastardized. Do you have a learning disability, wILLIam?

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  113. Shane -  July 3, 2010 - 7:40 am

    Give William a break. It was posted late Friday night. I have a hunch that it may have been influenced by alcohol…Or so I hope.

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  114. Melanie -  July 3, 2010 - 7:26 am

    Actually, the word ‘bastard’ was never used. You, sir – not that you really deserve the title – are an idiot. And I bet it’s EXTREMELY difficult to figure out what the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council does. Especially for someone who can’t even spell the word ‘some’ without forgetting a vowel.

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  115. Mitch McCrimmon -  July 3, 2010 - 7:18 am

    Great article, should me mandatory reading for every British citizen. They have always struggled with the word “hamburger” never quite getting that the name refers to its origins not its content – as if the prefix “ham” must mean that hamburgers were burgers made of ham. In their puzzlement they had to rename the hamburger a “beefburger.” I always found this really odd, having lived their for 20 years, because it is not at though they have trouble using “ham” as a prefix for other words. No one mistakenly thinks that “Hamlet” means ham for rent. (In the UK, they use “let” to mean rent or hire.) If you want to rent an apartment you have to look for “flats to let.”

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  116. dkny -  July 3, 2010 - 7:12 am

    well wiLlIam you are just trying to be ignorant……lol
    anyways well the blog was quite informative…..keep goin’ gr8 job!

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  117. Dharmeshwaran -  July 3, 2010 - 7:09 am

    We can ill treat animals and birds,tillk
    a giant man appears and delights inb
    Child barbecue,like chicken barbecue
    or hot child like hot dog!

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  118. Rob -  July 3, 2010 - 6:54 am

    I didn’t realize I was in the company of such harsh critics when reading the ‘Word of the Day’ emails. Needless to say I double checked every word and character in this post to avoid the censure poor William suffered. I might have to go back to the less caustic Urban Dictionary blogs…

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  119. Gran Tobal -  July 3, 2010 - 6:00 am

    Thanks wILLIam. The word was bastardized, and it’s a hyperlink to the definition. Cool, huh? Your creative and capitalization and spelling made my morning. Happy Independence Day!

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  120. beeurd -  July 3, 2010 - 5:18 am

    In this context ‘bastardise’ isn’t inappropriate language; it’s actual terminology (in this case) for when a word has become twisted from it’s original state to become something else, basically.

    It’s the same as when you use ‘bloody’ to mean something that is covered in blood; it’s not swearing in that context.

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  121. Kristine -  July 3, 2010 - 4:56 am

    p.s. Dear wIILIam, look up the word, Bastard and do note the various connotations.

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  122. Kristine -  July 3, 2010 - 4:55 am

    I love that there is a National Hot Dog and Sausage Council. Go capitalism.

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  123. rraasz -  July 3, 2010 - 4:52 am

    If William (previous comment) above had clicked on the hyperlink “bastardized”, he would have found the first definition “to lower in quality or character”. It wasn’t used totally inappropriately. Apparently, some do not know what “Lday” is.
    wILLIam, did you learn anything at all from the article?
    Here is the link for the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council. It wasn’t hard to find. National Hot Dog & Sausage Council
    Conducts scientific research to benefit hot dog and sausage manufacturers. Brochures, facts and trivia, news, and recipes.
    http://www.hot-dog.org

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  124. adthelad -  July 3, 2010 - 2:49 am

    If you’re going to leave a comment on a Dictionary.com article then the least you could do is check your spelling…

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  125. Bree -  July 3, 2010 - 2:42 am

    It’s sad the lack of grammar and degeneration of the English language in the prior comment, considering this is a dictionary based website.
    “Bastardized” (complete with a link that leads to its true definition) means something that has been derogated, as so fittingly has been demonstrated by “wILLIam”‘s intellect.
    Too harsh? Comment on another site if you wish to spew such grammar, it seems to be contagious.

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  126. cody -  July 3, 2010 - 2:23 am

    William, you’re an id***. How ironic it is that you’re posting on dictionary.com…you could stand to spend a little more time with a dictionary. You shouldn’t be allowed to breed.

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  127. Melissa -  July 3, 2010 - 2:20 am

    Bastardize isn’t a swear word. Think of it as a vocabulary word that will turn heads.

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  128. Alun -  July 3, 2010 - 2:16 am

    wILLIam, or is it Willy(?) read the text mate.

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  129. CaLviN -  July 3, 2010 - 1:23 am

    Spell check???? You’ve got gut leaving such an ignorant comment on ‘dictionary.com’

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  130. wILLIam -  July 2, 2010 - 11:48 pm

    oh yes…. ill think about all these hot dogs stuff. but member its the Lday. (sum might know what i mean)So who actually came up with the word ‘hot-dog’???? hEY who used the word BASTARD in this blog. tottally inapproriate! Apprantly there are hundreds of different kind of sausages in Germany!!!! check it up!
    Who the heck is the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council i wonder!!!!!!

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